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Re:Delta Variant by paulddraper on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @07:03PM (#27827306)
> picking CFR of course because it is the bigger number

And it changed over time. You remember hearing news media 3% at the beginning of the pandemic?

When did you hear them update it to <1%? Nope by that point they had moved to raw case counts, which by then then the higher statistic.

Selective reporting all day long.

Re:Delta Variant by spookthesunset on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @07:21PM (#27827428)
Plenty of people (like my folks) still think that covid has a 4% “kill rate”.

“Well that is what the experts say” is what their source is.

It’s disgusting how this whole thing is nothing but raw appeals to authority the entire way down. Thinking for yourself, expressing doubt or skepticism or having hope and optimism gets met with scorn, shame and ridicule.

Re:Delta Variant by pasabagi on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @12:47PM (#27835142)
Well, there has been a lot of 'skepticism' that amounts to cherry picking whatever facts allow people to believe what they please. I think the fact remains that COVID was and is extraordinarily dangerous, and that's evidenced by the enormous casualty figures, even in countries that were supposed to be well prepared.

I think there's a simple difference in scale between this other events, that makes it hard to assimilate - COVID was, statistically, the most deadly single natural disaster to happen to my country (the UK) in a century. That's hard to relate to, hard to make policy about, hard to put in perspective. Bear in mind the last pandemic (Spanish Flu) was before antibiotics, before oxygen, before all of the techniques that made COVID something you can treat to some degree of success in a hospital.

Re:Delta Variant by paulddraper on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @07:22PM (#27839696)
> COVID was, statistically, the most deadly single natural disaster to happen to my country (the UK) in a century

Technically true because of the "natural disaster" qualifier, but the world wars killed 890k and 450k Brits.

And smoking killed 750k in the last decade. And now that's been overtaken by obesity.

COVID won't even come close to touching that.

Manmade disasters have fearful consequences too. Perhaps that makes it easier to "relate to."

Re:Delta Variant by pasabagi on Thursday July 15, 2021 @02:05AM (#27841859)
I guess for me it seems different to normal public health stuff because of the speed - but perhaps your second world war figure is exactly what I am getting at. COVID is on the same scale as the UK's losses in the second world war - it's worse than the blitz, for example, but less deadly than the entire british involvement. The second world war caused seismic political and cultural changes in the UK. It's probably the most significant moment in the UK's history since the napoleonic wars.

Now, I don't think casualty figures alone provoke the kind of reassessment and realignment that made WW2 such a watershed, but honestly, I think they probably should.