A privacy war is raging inside the W3C

Re:A privacy war is raging inside the W3C by _1gwx on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @05:14PM (#27826402)

I thought Korean soap operas were good until I read this article. What a whole bunch of unnecessary drama. The W3C always appeared to be one of the most dysfunctional entities in existence, and now the article leaves no question as to why.

Funny this Rosewell guy. "Should web browsers really become implementation mechanisms of specific government regulation?" -- Isn't everything a mechanism of specific government regulation? We seem to have an autocrat in the making here who would prefer the Web existed in isolation of civilization and where he could squeeze out that ad cash unhindered by government regulations. Given that he likes to ask philosophical questions, perhaps he could ask himself why the Web is being regulated in the first place.

It's also funny how in the article, the only people who seem to actually care about privacy are the non-profits advocating for it and the government regulators fighting antitrust.

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Re:A privacy war is raging inside the W3C by pdonis on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @05:47PM (#27826689)

> Isn't everything a mechanism of specific government regulation?

Um, no?

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Re:A privacy war is raging inside the W3C by 3gg on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @10:28PM (#27828898)

Sorry, I did not mean that literally. Point is Rosewell wants to preserve the status quo for his own personal benefit and, unsurprisingly, any kind of legislation that attempts to constrain his greed appears to him as an inconvenience.

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Re:A privacy war is raging inside the W3C by pdonis on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @05:33PM (#27838716)

> Point is Rosewell wants to preserve the status quo for his own personal benefit and, unsurprisingly, any kind of legislation that attempts to constrain his greed appears to him as an inconvenience.

I agree with this.

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Re:A privacy war is raging inside the W3C by haecceity on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @08:24PM (#27827922)

GDPR?

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Re:A privacy war is raging inside the W3C by EGreg on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @10:23PM (#27828859)

Ah yes that is everything !

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Re:A privacy war is raging inside the W3C by mcguire on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @05:18PM (#27826454)

"I thought Korean soap operas were good until I read this article. What a whole bunch of unnecessary drama. The W3C always appeared to be one of the most dysfunctional entities in existence, and now the article leaves no question as to why."

Can I introduce you to the IETF (https://www.ietf.org/)? :-)

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Re:A privacy war is raging inside the W3C by josephg on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @10:15PM (#27828811)

The IETF isn’t so bad. There’s bikeshedding everywhere but they consistently pump out RFCs for all manner of things.

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Re:A privacy war is raging inside the W3C by rodgerd on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @10:16PM (#27828818)

> We seem to have an autocrat in the making

We already have autocrats in Facebook and Google. What they're fighting is an attempt to put them back under civil oversight.

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Re:A privacy war is raging inside the W3C by TheTester on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @05:25PM (#27826511)

"who would prefer the Web existed in isolation of civilization"

Honestly the internet was a better place when THAT was the situation sorry if I sound like a deluded man but the internet being so close to the world, or at least as much as it is now, is part of the problem.

And even if I do not agree with this guy and his pretensions, at least we would have better ways to combat guys like him in the old internet, but company owners like him at the end of the day have much more power thanks to the internet being so prevalescent and hyperreal, as the same authorities and entities that protect unbalanced power holders, can arrest you and fight you because of things that happen on the internet.

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Re:A privacy war is raging inside the W3C by 3gg on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @10:24PM (#27828864)

Wait, what ways did we have to combat the likes of Rosewell? I agree the old, 90s Web was much better overall than what we have today. But its openness and diversity seems to have been a temporary illusion; it was only a matter of time for it to fall to greedy, unethical corporations. Given that the W3C is run by these same corporations and that they won't be limited by their own moral constraints, it seems to me that half-assed regulatory attempts like the GDPR, while imperfect, seem like a good step in a not-completely-unoptimal direction.

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