Perth man jailed for 7 months after breaching self-quarantine instructions

Re:Perth man jailed for 7 months after breaching self-quaran... by throwaway894345 on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @02:19PM (#27824286)

7 months in prison is an insane punishment for "you could possibly have COVID and your contractor could possibly not be able to get a vaccine or wear a mask or etc and he could also have immunocompromised family members". Note that Western Australia has a 7 day average of 1 covid case and not a single death since May 2020 (9 total COVID deaths) [0].

The maximum term for drunk driving in Perth is 18 months[1] and that's for a repeat offense with a BAC in excess of 0.15. Is our contractor scenario really ~5 times more dangerous than multiple driving-while-absolutely-hammered offenses?

[0]: https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=covid+c...

[1]: https://www.gotocourt.com.au/drink-driving/wa/dui-penalties/

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Re:Perth man jailed for 7 months after breaching self-quaran... by kadoban on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @02:29PM (#27824407)

The number of possible deaths is _far_ higher. The chance is almost certainly lower. I would not be at all surprised if on the balance it's way worse than 5 times more dangerous, in terms of expected lives lost (in statistical terms).

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Re:Perth man jailed for 7 months after breaching self-quaran... by psychedelican on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @02:42PM (#27824560)

The point is we're now at the point of jailing people based on conjecture and projection and statistics instead of them committing an actual crime.

What is the statistical likelihood that any person of a specific religious group will commit an act of terrorism? Should we find that number and then jail a random swath of their population?

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Re:Perth man jailed for 7 months after breaching self-quaran... by kadoban on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @02:45PM (#27824594)

It is an actual crime. This person risked many people's lives for their own convenience. He did actual actions, not possible future activity.

If I fire a gun into a building blindly, the chance I kill anyone is low. Should that be legal?

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Re:Perth man jailed for 7 months after breaching self-quaran... by throwaway894345 on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @04:14PM (#27825730)

I think we're all arguing for sentencing in proportion to risk; we differ in our relative risk assessments. You mention that you think being near someone (presumably while masked?) is at least 5x more dangerous than drunk driving (per your comment upthread) while I (and presumably the parent) disagree.

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Re:Perth man jailed for 7 months after breaching self-quaran... by kadoban on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @04:25PM (#27825843)

I don't know about that. Ggp seems to be arguing that any crime based on risk (and not outcome) should not be a crime, though their possibly forthcoming reply may clarify.

If we agree it should be a crime and just disagree on severity, that seems fair enough and (at least to me) not worth any further discussion than I already engaged in on it.

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Re:Perth man jailed for 7 months after breaching self-quaran... by throwaway894345 on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @04:59PM (#27838363)

Yeah, I can't speak for him. We definitely outlaw things that are simply very risky (e.g., drunk driving) whether or not anyone is actually injured. I don't have a problem with prohibiting unnecessary social gatherings, but this feels like it should be a $200 USD fine--certainly not 5 times the max drunk driving sentence.

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Re:Perth man jailed for 7 months after breaching self-quaran... by jobigoud on Friday July 16, 2021 @03:26AM (#27853791)

7 months is not five times 18 months, did you misread this as 7 years?

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