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Re:Organic and regenerative agriculture are revitalizing rur... by mathgladiator on Monday July 12, 2021 @12:03PM (#27811660)
The key criticism is that it yields less, so it doesn't scale. Furthermore, it generally lacks uniformity, so you can't automate either.
Re:Organic and regenerative agriculture are revitalizing rur... by tastyfreeze on Monday July 12, 2021 @12:50PM (#27812278)
Crops can be integrated and still planted and harvested mechanically. Planting differing height crops or same height crops with different seed sizes you can still use machines and harvest multiple crops from the same time/land.

Yield for some crops is actually more after the ~3 year transition period. However, for all crops quality is greatly improved. Better quality means you need to eat less to be satiated.

Re:Organic and regenerative agriculture are revitalizing rur... by nradov on Monday July 12, 2021 @01:40PM (#27812917)
Better quality only helps if customers are willing to pay more. A lot of crops are sold through middlemen as undifferentiated commodities.
Re:Organic and regenerative agriculture are revitalizing rur... by tastyfreeze on Monday July 12, 2021 @02:11PM (#27813269)
If there were a way to differentiate higher quality food in the store it doesn't need to cost more. People will prefer the higher quality produce and the low quality producers will need to adapt or die.
Re:Organic and regenerative agriculture are revitalizing rur... by cwkoss on Monday July 12, 2021 @07:06PM (#27816145)
Higher quality food should cost more - it costs more to produce.

I'm envious of Japan's 'designer produce' tied to their gift culture. America doesn't really have much "This fruit is so much better, people are willing to pay 10x+ for it". I think our food system would be much better if we had $20 versions of all produce to get people to stop treating produce as fungible commodities.

Re:Organic and regenerative agriculture are revitalizing rur... by tastyfreeze on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @12:23AM (#27817610)
Produce grown regeneratively doesnt cost more to produce mostly because of the lessened or eliminated chemical inputs. That doesnt mean that regenerative farmers arent getting a premium for their product. But, that is more the demand warrants a premium than a higher cost to produce.
Re:Organic and regenerative agriculture are revitalizing rur... by aatharuv on Monday July 12, 2021 @02:45PM (#27813594)
Customers do pay more for organic food and non-GMO food that's certified.
Re:Organic and regenerative agriculture are revitalizing rur... by lostlogin on Monday July 12, 2021 @03:04PM (#27813783)
American farms can be truely vast, so any statement on averages is swayed by this. The article says they are planting 4,500 acres this year. When you look up average US farm sizes it is hard to know what to compare it to as monocropping or single breed farming seem to be the standard. However you do it, the farm planting is a lot smaller than 4500 acres.

They might not be farming at a scale big ag run at, but it’s no small operation.

The below link says “The midpoint acreage for U.S. cropland nearly doubled between 1982 and 2007, from 589 acres to 1,105.”

https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/publications/45108/39359_er...

Re:Organic and regenerative agriculture are revitalizing rur... by kickout on Monday July 12, 2021 @12:13PM (#27811788)
Would disagree with the automated comment. Most thing in regenerative ag are just as automated as conventional ag, unless you're thinking of something specific?
Re:Organic and regenerative agriculture are revitalizing rur... by mathgladiator on Monday July 12, 2021 @02:08PM (#27813236)
I'm probably thinking along the lines of perma-culture and bio-mimicry where things are all mixed up in a more natural way. Essentially, you don't have giant machines since there are too many edge cases.