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Re:Biden launches action on "Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big A... by fallingknife on Sunday July 11, 2021 @10:07PM (#27806197)
If I'm having issues I'll call the doctor. I don't need a babysitter.
Re:Biden launches action on "Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big A... by alphaoverlord on Sunday July 11, 2021 @10:20PM (#27806260)
There are definitely doctors who will space it out if you’re stable or do a phone refill
Re:Biden launches action on "Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big A... by TearsInTheRain on Sunday July 11, 2021 @11:46PM (#27806780)
I think some tech health platforms like Capsule will even have a pharmacist call your doctor for a refill for you.
Re:Biden launches action on "Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big A... by NullPrefix on Monday July 12, 2021 @08:21PM (#27816555)
It means you need to pay your doctor and this company.
Re:Biden launches action on "Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big A... by asdff on Sunday July 11, 2021 @11:01PM (#27806481)
Some people do though. Imagine someone who just lets this stuff lapse and they are still being regularly prescribed stuff that should have been cancelled 8 years ago.
Re:Biden launches action on "Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big A... by jjk166 on Sunday July 11, 2021 @11:33PM (#27806688)
Just like how we require people to check in with their accountant every 6 months to make sure their finances are doing well, check in with a teacher and take a test every year to make sure our education is still up to date, and we have the cops investigate us biannually to catch any signs of legal trouble early.

We don't and we shouldn't require everyone to be nannied just because some people might benefit - they can seek those services on their own if they wish. Requiring someone else's permission to maintain your personal health would be considered just as absurd if it weren't the status quo.

Re:Biden launches action on "Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big A... by throwaway4220 on Monday July 12, 2021 @11:28AM (#27811256)
Please, sign a notarized document saying you, your family or the DA won't sue because you were (a) lost to follow-up, (b) developed a medical condition as you grew older, (c) got a side effect because of long term medical use. Then, don't waste ER time if you have a stroke or heart attack because government can't tell me not to eat trans fats.

And, by the way, if you have an accountant, you should check in more than once a year. It's not fair to them to dump stuff only during tax time. Also, I do have to do regular tests to make sure my medical knowledge is up to date.

Re:Biden launches action on "Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big A... by jjk166 on Monday July 12, 2021 @06:19PM (#27815787)
If we could sue hospitals into paying out because we developed medical conditions as we aged, there wouldn't be any hospitals.

You have to qualify your statement with "if you have an accountant" because I don't have to have an accountant, it is an optional service I can seek if I want. In my case, I do my own taxes, and if I don't get as big a tax return as I could've back, it hurts nobody but me.

The requirement for you to do regular tasks for the privilege of practicing your profession is forced upon you because the the consequences of any lapse in your knowledge are borne by others, not you. I too have professional requirements, but I can choose a different profession and be absolved of all of them.

A chronic condition is not a choice. Dealing with your pain is not a privilege, it is a right. The idea that people should be forced to forego their right based on the idea that some others will benefit (a dubious claim for which I can find no evidence supporting) is absurd.

Re:Biden launches action on "Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big A... by throwaway4220 on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @02:51PM (#27824683)
Thanks for your response. I think I was unfairly attacking you after a rough day. I'll just say that preventative care is very important and you have a right to receive the proper medication.
Re:Biden launches action on "Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big A... by R0b0t1 on Sunday July 11, 2021 @11:30PM (#27806663)
People already die quietly alone all the time. How far do we need to go to have everyone have a babysitter, especially at their own expense?
Re:Biden launches action on "Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big A... by benrbray on Monday July 12, 2021 @01:58AM (#27807500)
I think the idea is that the doctor is actively intervening in your medical treatment, so they have a responsibility to make sure they're getting it right. This person is free to stop taking their meds and die alone whenever they like.

Visits to the doctor should be cheaper and more efficient, but people shouldn't stop going to the doctor.

Re:Biden launches action on "Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big A... by cycomanic on Monday July 12, 2021 @02:28AM (#27807665)
I find it fascinating that the HN crowd complains about doctors being too expensive. I mean what is the comparative value that software developers add to society compared to doctors that justify their salaries (which are often on the same level or higher)?
Re:Biden launches action on "Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big A... by kelnos on Monday July 12, 2021 @05:16AM (#27808480)
False equivalence. Software developers "charge" companies (that are very much able to pay) for their services. Doctors charge everyone, from the rich to the poor, for their services. The poor (and even not-so-poor) get screwed by this, more often than not. I haven't heard of a bunch of software developers bankrupting people in exchange for their health...
Re:Biden launches action on "Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big A... by asdff on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @01:33AM (#27817876)
Why is it always "doctors" and not "administrators" in these threads on HN? They don't set the price of the drug. They don't set the price of an ER visit. If their hourly rate seems high, have you seen the hourly rate of a plumber who absolutely did not go to school for ten years?
Re:Biden launches action on "Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big A... by R0b0t1 on Monday July 12, 2021 @04:19AM (#27808182)
Most people in IT related fields aren't at doctor level pay.

I suspect the sentiment is from commonly interacting with absolutely useless doctors. There are a lot of them.

Re:Biden launches action on "Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big A... by throwaway4220 on Monday July 12, 2021 @11:18AM (#27811142)
I've seen 200k+ salaries as standard here. Look up salaries of primary care physicians. Then add on the 50k+/year MD debt, and any undergrad debt.
Re:Biden launches action on "Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big A... by R0b0t1 on Monday July 12, 2021 @09:04PM (#27816767)
That's not a normal range for most of the country doing SWE. If you know where to get that type of job let me know. I've done blind, sent out tons of applications, whatever. Hurts to know I'm potentially screwing myself out of tens of thousands of dollars, but nobody is contacting me back.

My professional contacts have told me I'm doing senior level work but nobody will respond even for positions below that.

Re:Biden launches action on "Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big A... by throwaway4220 on Tuesday July 13, 2021 @02:52PM (#27824703)
Haha greener grass and all I guess. I've seen those numbers on glassdoor and a couple threads here.

Edit: sorry it was site https://www.levels.fyi/company/Google/salaries/Software-Engi.... No idea how real it is.

Re:Biden launches action on "Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big A... by R0b0t1 on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @10:54PM (#27840958)
Yeah, I've seen it. Not many companies seem to pay well. An issue (on the employer side) is my lack of degree, but as stated I'm doing senior level work and have plenty of experience.
Re:Biden launches action on "Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big A... by TheSpiceIsLife on Monday July 12, 2021 @05:31AM (#27808556)
Doctors are the third leading cause of death, after only heart disease and cancer.

By many measure: if you see a doctor, cross the street.

Re:Biden launches action on "Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big A... by fny on Sunday July 11, 2021 @11:10PM (#27806537)
I’m in the same position my dr is kind enough to let me email in for refills.
Re:Biden launches action on "Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big A... by wellbehaved on Monday July 12, 2021 @12:08AM (#27806953)
So? Some people need exercise, does that mean the government should force everyone to exercise?
Re:Biden launches action on "Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big A... by pradn on Monday July 12, 2021 @02:02PM (#27813180)
I personally prefer a proactive doctor. Life gets busy and I don't always find time to get checkups and such. A small nudge from the doctor's office to get a checkup pays dividends. People with chronic conditions do need monitoring. It shouldn't be absurdly expensive.