EU withheld a study that shows piracy doesn't hurt sales (2017)

Re:EU withheld a study that shows piracy doesn't hurt sales ... by baobabKoodaa on Sunday July 11, 2021 @11:28AM (#27801553)

> At some point you get old enough to not want to bother with piracy because of the hassle if you have a decent first world income.

Partially disagree. For things like music and tv series, there's more hassle when acquiring the product via "official" channels. For example, when I want to download a music video, I can just go on youtube and I can download the video with one click (using "unofficial" software). If I wanted to use "official" channels to purchase a copy of the music video, I would have to spend a lot of time just finding out which service sells it, then figure out if they actually sell this piece of music or merely rent it out, then figure out a method to register and pay, etc. In the end I have no idea if I will even acquire a mp4 file or some kind of DRM time bomb.

I can't fathom why anybody would feel like buying music is less of a hassle than downloading music without buying it.

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Re:EU withheld a study that shows piracy doesn't hurt sales ... by vinay427 on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @01:22AM (#27829977)

Nearly everyone I know doesn't usually bother with music piracy because of Spotify and their competitors, which offer listening to nearly every song imaginable in a format that's IMO far more convenient than the MP3 days, piracy or otherwise.

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Re:EU withheld a study that shows piracy doesn't hurt sales ... by baobabKoodaa on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @09:27AM (#27832761)

I'm not talking about the convenience of "the MP3 days", I'm talking about the convenience today. The example I provided was one-click downloading a music video. You countered this with the ability to... stream audio temporarily from Spotify? Not sure how that's relevant. Does Spotify allow you to download mp4 music videos?

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Re:EU withheld a study that shows piracy doesn't hurt sales ... by vinay427 on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @09:34AM (#27832812)

Your point seemed to be about "music" before veering into an example with music videos, in which I have no experience.

> For things like music and tv series, there's more hassle when acquiring the product via "official" channels.

> I can't fathom why anybody would feel like buying music is less of a hassle than downloading music without buying it.

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Re:EU withheld a study that shows piracy doesn't hurt sales ... by baobabKoodaa on Wednesday July 14, 2021 @09:37AM (#27832834)

> Your point seemed to be about "music" before veering into an example with music videos

True. Note that the text you quoted referred to "acquiring the product". Streaming audio from Spotify temporarily is different from "acquiring" the audio file. Do you think acquiring audio files via official channels is somehow less of a hassle than acquiring them via unofficial channels, like youtube-dl?

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