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Re:Surveilling the Gamers: Privacy Impacts of the Video Game... by Dig1t on Friday July 09, 2021 @05:47PM (#27788901)
I don't think my Debian desktop computer is spying on me.. but that may be the only computer that isn't.
Re:Surveilling the Gamers: Privacy Impacts of the Video Game... by pabs3 on Friday July 09, 2021 @10:00PM (#27790518)
There are lots of privacy issues in Debian unfortunately, we welcome help trying to find and fix them though. Some resources here:

https://wiki.debian.org/PrivacyIssues

Re:Surveilling the Gamers: Privacy Impacts of the Video Game... by fsflover on Saturday July 10, 2021 @12:51AM (#27791214)
Privacy issues is not the same as intentional spying.
Re:Surveilling the Gamers: Privacy Impacts of the Video Game... by pabs3 on Saturday July 10, 2021 @04:11AM (#27791941)
There has been intentional spying (telemetry) in Debian too, Firefox for example, as well as Cura (3D printing app, although they eventually stopped that).
Re:Surveilling the Gamers: Privacy Impacts of the Video Game... by shadilay on Friday July 09, 2021 @06:18PM (#27789146)
Are you sure the computer inside the computer (Intel ME) isn't spying on you?
Re:Surveilling the Gamers: Privacy Impacts of the Video Game... by fsflover on Saturday July 10, 2021 @12:51AM (#27791210)
Intel ME is disabled and neutralized on my Librem laptop.
Re:Surveilling the Gamers: Privacy Impacts of the Video Game... by gentleman11 on Saturday July 10, 2021 @02:20AM (#27791523)
Any hiccups with that? How are their laptops? I might look for a replacement for my dell soon
Re:Surveilling the Gamers: Privacy Impacts of the Video Game... by fsflover on Saturday July 10, 2021 @06:37AM (#27792476)
Works flawlessly for me, can recommend.
Re:Surveilling the Gamers: Privacy Impacts of the Video Game... by neatze on Friday July 09, 2021 @08:59PM (#27790176)
all apps can run with network disabled by default via firejail and/or apparmor or simply by using iptables/nftables :)
Re:Surveilling the Gamers: Privacy Impacts of the Video Game... by remram on Friday July 09, 2021 @09:44PM (#27790411)
iptables won't prevent that other chip from using the network if it wants to.
Re:Surveilling the Gamers: Privacy Impacts of the Video Game... by neatze on Saturday July 10, 2021 @12:08AM (#27791034)
true, did not think about firmware vulnerabilities when was replaying to comment.
Re:Surveilling the Gamers: Privacy Impacts of the Video Game... by teawrecks on Friday July 09, 2021 @06:16PM (#27789131)
Might be.
Re:Surveilling the Gamers: Privacy Impacts of the Video Game... by quesera on Friday July 09, 2021 @06:21PM (#27789178)
Many people are unhappy about Debian popcon.
Re:Surveilling the Gamers: Privacy Impacts of the Video Game... by Nextgrid on Friday July 09, 2021 @06:40PM (#27789320)
It's opt-in (and the preselected option is "no" so even if you accidentally press enter you won't opt-in) and very clearly explained during installation.
Re:Surveilling the Gamers: Privacy Impacts of the Video Game... by quesera on Saturday July 10, 2021 @11:04AM (#27793794)
You are correct.

Ubuntu installed Debian's popcon as a default package from 2006-2018, although apparently it was not configured to send data upstream.