Not to excuse Lulzsec's actions, but don't you think that we should hold an international news organization to a higher standard?

We should... they are sufficiently compensated for their position as an international news organisation, that they should operate at a higher standard.

But the internet has leveled the playing field. We should hold ourselves to a similar standard. Rather than lulzing as it burns. We should step up.

That's sort of like telling insurgents that they should engage in an infantry battle instead of roadside bombs. You can disagree with the cause but it's pretty obvious, given their capabilities, that they have to play by different rules.

Lulzsec don't have a half dozen global media organizations to push their point of view -- they have funny website redirects and email dumps. So that's what they're doing.

EDIT: Hey downmodder, read, I gave you permission to disagree with the cause if you want. Comment is about tactics.

If we're torturing analogies, that's like a child saying "but he started it!"

There seems to be a momentum developing based on adults who have been maintaining pressure on this story through legal investigative journalism... setting fire to a paper bag filled with shit on their doorstep and ringing the bell doesn't help.

(edit: didn't downvote you btw... that's for the drive-by kids)

I refuse to accept responsibility for petty vandalism. It's impossible to prevent in any community.

Ourselves = all the people with Internet access?

You're acting like this has anything to do with the News of the World allegations, other than the fact that it is what gave them the idea. It's mostly about them entertaining themselves. Lulzsec/antisec does have a message (essentially that the security industry is exploitative) but when they act under Lulzsec it really is just for the lulz.

It's mostly about attention seeking.

Same thing

why, that's almost as hypocritical as stopping enemy soldiers from shooting at you by... shooting at them!

Seems like just deserts to me.

Hacking a dead girl's voicemail and lying about it to the police is not the same as hacking the CMS of the assholes responsible for it.