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Re:Amazon tells bosses to conceal when employees are on perf... by potatolicious on Friday July 09, 2021 @02:36PM (#27786938)
I didn't read OP's comment as "performance issues should be publicized within the workforce" and more "performance issues should be known to the individual employee"

If management thinks you're doing a bad job, it's not needed to make it known to the entire team - but you should know.

Re:Amazon tells bosses to conceal when employees are on perf... by temp8964 on Friday July 09, 2021 @02:44PM (#27787028)
I don't think you should always know. I also updated the language.
Re:Amazon tells bosses to conceal when employees are on perf... by lazide on Friday July 09, 2021 @03:50PM (#27787792)
Doing something about a problem generally requires someone is aware that a problem exists right?

Otherwise it’s just marking them for future termination without telling them, which seems like a waste of everyone’s time.

Re:Amazon tells bosses to conceal when employees are on perf... by temp8964 on Friday July 09, 2021 @04:35PM (#27788194)
No. The management team can make honest mistake. After preliminary investigation, they find they are wrong. No need to tell the employee in this regard.

I did not say they should never tell the employee. I think sometimes it's unnecessary.

Re:Amazon tells bosses to conceal when employees are on perf... by lazide on Friday July 09, 2021 @05:41PM (#27788854)
Shouldn’t that investigation happen before they are considered a performance problem and put on the list?

Giving the employee a chance to rebut any performance problem assumptions would be an important part of this, and would also require they know.

Re:Amazon tells bosses to conceal when employees are on perf... by temp8964 on Friday July 09, 2021 @08:47PM (#27790106)
Yes. At some point the employee should know. But there is a process, and I don't think they should inform the employee right from the start.
Re:Amazon tells bosses to conceal when employees are on perf... by lazide on Monday July 12, 2021 @04:37AM (#27808283)
How much experience do you have managing people?

In my 15+ years doing so, I’ve never heard or seen a situation in a reasonable organization where someone gets on a list like this (intentionally, as compared to their manager screwing up by not having a conversation with them before it is clearly a huge problem to everyone else) without knowing they are going to get on a list like this if they don’t improve.

I have heard it at many places that are flogging employees or using scare tactics to get every cent worth of value they can put or people before they burn out and get thrown on the rubbish bin.

Re:Amazon tells bosses to conceal when employees are on perf... by brlewis on Saturday July 10, 2021 @09:31AM (#27793236)
As the employee in that situation I'd want to be told, so I could improve how I manage others' perception of me.