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Re:Alcohol-free beer is fizzing by pstuart on Friday July 09, 2021 @12:47PM (#27785669)
kratom makes a good replacement for alcohol
Re:Alcohol-free beer is fizzing by JohnWhigham on Friday July 09, 2021 @02:01PM (#27786564)
Personally, I don't see the recreational value. For me it was a very, very weak opiate high that wore off in an hour and whose tolerance builds up extremely fast. It should be more widely available though since people have said it helps them taper off actual opiates.
Re:Alcohol-free beer is fizzing by pstuart on Friday July 09, 2021 @08:20PM (#27789926)
There's a lot of variability of response, but plenty of people report on /r/kratom that it's helped wean them from alcohol. It certainly helped me.

It's not without concerns (tolerance/addiction) but for those who respond well it is incredibly valuable.

Re:Alcohol-free beer is fizzing by herbst on Saturday July 10, 2021 @09:21AM (#27793177)
I am all for allowing natural drug use, however I know several people who developed actual addictions to Kratom. I mean they all got over it when they made it illegal (I think) but still would be careful about recommending it without disclaimer.
Re:Alcohol-free beer is fizzing by pstuart on Saturday July 10, 2021 @05:01PM (#27796442)
Yeah it has it's issues as well and I normally include that in the proposition. It's been a struggle for me as well, but it's worth it for the upside.
Re:Alcohol-free beer is fizzing by anoraca on Friday July 09, 2021 @02:02PM (#27786574)
My observation of this substance was that it was similar to a low grade opiate and seemed to be quite habit forming among several people I knew that tried it.