Protect student privacy: ban eproctoring

Re:Protect student privacy: ban eproctoring by maweki on Friday July 09, 2021 @05:01AM (#27781755)

We did this through the exam software (Browser-Based). Everything not checked automatically (multiple choice) was sorted by question in the backend. We (the examiners) had all the information. It was just hidden from the students.

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Re:Protect student privacy: ban eproctoring by legutierr on Friday July 09, 2021 @06:24AM (#27782237)

Might I ask, was the exam software you used something you acquired from a third-party, or was it something you built yourselves? Would you recommend it? I have been dissatisfied with everything we have tried so far in my organization, and what you used sounds pretty good.

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Re:Protect student privacy: ban eproctoring by easton on Friday July 09, 2021 @06:34AM (#27782275)

I don’t know what you use for your LMS, but I know Canvas can do most of that as part of its Quiz system (randomize questions given, randomize constants and answers, etc). I’m sure Blackboard and moodle have something similar.

https://community.canvaslms.com/t5/Instructor-Guide/How-do-I...

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Re:Protect student privacy: ban eproctoring by maweki on Friday July 09, 2021 @11:59AM (#27785058)

https://github.com/ILIAS-eLearning/ILIAS

It's a whole platform for e-learning. The exam system is ... usable. The fine arts, law, and social silences like it very much, because long form answers are readable.

The natural sciences with the math bit have to work around it. We manage.

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Re:Protect student privacy: ban eproctoring by undfg on Friday July 09, 2021 @05:13AM (#27781822)

Glad that you had an automatic system going, but most universities don't have one and can't fund its development, and wanting to shift this burden to professors is unreasonable.

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Re:Protect student privacy: ban eproctoring by p49k on Friday July 09, 2021 @05:26AM (#27781901)

Your stance is that it’s unaffordable for a university to spend a small amount of money on randomized browser tests, therefore they should spend a large amount of money on intrusive spying software?

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Re:Protect student privacy: ban eproctoring by undfg on Friday July 09, 2021 @05:29AM (#27781920)

I don't believe a public institution would be able to come up with a system like this that works reasonably and have it developed in a reasonable amount of time within a reasonable budget.

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Re:Protect student privacy: ban eproctoring by wizzwizz4 on Friday July 09, 2021 @05:46AM (#27782029)

> I don't believe a public institution would be able to come up with a system like this that works reasonably

I don't believe “e-proctoring” companies are capable of it, either. I got disqualified from an exam for five `onblur` events (while my screen was being recorded), and it kept counting while the “DO NOT CHEAT” lockout message was displayed; if that's “works reasonably” then I don't know what isn't.

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Re:Protect student privacy: ban eproctoring by loktarogar on Friday July 09, 2021 @05:47AM (#27782033)

In 2009 I developed a system like this as part of my course at the equivalent of a community college. The premise of the class was to develop a real world application employing the skills we had learned so far (project management, programming, etc). The whole class (10 people) participated in building this software.

We spent 6 months on it and as far as I heard was still in use as late as 2015.

You don't have to create a whole system; just a database that prepares variants of questions, and a method to put it into the existing exam software.

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Re:Protect student privacy: ban eproctoring by mkl on Friday July 09, 2021 @07:05AM (#27782442)

Your belief is contradicted by reality. For example: https://stack-assessment.org/

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Re:Protect student privacy: ban eproctoring by maweki on Friday July 09, 2021 @05:17AM (#27781845)

In Germany we have multiple state-sponsored open-source e-learning platforms that basically all support examinations.

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Re:Protect student privacy: ban eproctoring by ShroudedNight on Friday July 09, 2021 @05:31AM (#27781946)

> ...and wanting to shift this burden to professors is unreasonable.

Why is it unreasonable? What level of duty do you perceive course instructors having to achieving positive outcomes for their students? Who is responsible for pushing improvements beyond the trough of the status quo?

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Re:Protect student privacy: ban eproctoring by mkl on Friday July 09, 2021 @07:03AM (#27782435)

You are misinformed. Moodle (LMS) and STACK (maths quiz system with symbolic comparison etc.) are open source and fit that description.

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