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Re:A phone the FBI sold to criminals by ChrisRR on Thursday July 08, 2021 @12:43PM (#27774512)
Generally speaking, criminals aren't smart people. Otherwise they could probably use their intelligence to earn money through legitimate means
Re:A phone the FBI sold to criminals by PhasmaFelis on Thursday July 08, 2021 @01:58PM (#27775616)
Street criminals tend to be dumb. Thugs, muggers, dealers, guys who just freak out and shoot/beat/rape someone for no reason. People like that usually aren't together enough to even think of getting a secure phone.

The FBI is after the upper echelons of organized crime, and organized crime can be terrifyingly intelligent and resourceful. As another commenter mentioned, some of the Mexican cartels have their own IT departments and private cell providers.

Re:A phone the FBI sold to criminals by wolverine876 on Sunday July 11, 2021 @02:54PM (#27803630)
> organized crime can be terrifyingly intelligent and resourceful. As another commenter mentioned, some of the Mexican cartels have their own IT departments and private cell providers

What is that based on? If they are so smart, why are they in a business where they're risking their lives, living under constant legal threat, and ruining the lives of millions of others? Lots of people get very wealthy without those risks, such as many in the Bay Area? Who is smarter?

Having your own IT department isn't a sign of genius.

Re:A phone the FBI sold to criminals by swiley on Thursday July 08, 2021 @12:48PM (#27774574)
Intelligence != capable of socializing. You need both in order to be paid well. I think the belife that criminals are uninteligent is due to 1) Intelligent people recognizing that crime rarely has a positive expected profit

2) There might be more unintelligent people than people who are both intelligent and so incapable of socializing that they can't find work.

Re:A phone the FBI sold to criminals by sudosysgen on Thursday July 08, 2021 @01:05PM (#27774853)
As long as you're not at the bottom 2-3 rungs crime can have a huge positive expected profit. It's the lifestyle that sucks which is why intelligent people don't get into it unless something in their life makes it a compelling option.
Re:A phone the FBI sold to criminals by inetknght on Thursday July 08, 2021 @01:10PM (#27774939)
It's amazing to me to see how many people run out the tropes that intelligent people don't commit crimes. More accurately, intelligent people don't get caught committing crimes.
Re:A phone the FBI sold to criminals by sodality2 on Thursday July 08, 2021 @01:43PM (#27775407)
Re:A phone the FBI sold to criminals by rxhernandez on Thursday July 08, 2021 @01:18PM (#27775055)
I know a ton of intelligent people in their 30s or 40s at or near the poverty line. Being intelligent doesn't in any way guarantee you good money.

If you haven't heard of the just world fallacy, it might be worth looking into.

Re:A phone the FBI sold to criminals by wolverine876 on Sunday July 11, 2021 @02:55PM (#27803634)
It doesn't guarantee it, but it sure helps! Thew world isn't perfectly just, but there is justice. It depends on you and me - are we making our immediate world more just?
Re:A phone the FBI sold to criminals by jedberg on Thursday July 08, 2021 @01:27PM (#27775183)
There are plenty of smart criminals. They just don't get caught so you only hear about the dumb ones.
Re:A phone the FBI sold to criminals by nicetryguy on Thursday July 08, 2021 @02:30PM (#27776005)
It's like inverted Survivorship Bias.