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Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by miohtama on Thursday July 08, 2021 @07:41AM (#27770671)
How can “Excel macro” be still an attack vector after is issue has been known for 23 years? Or malicious email attachment?

> Below are the five unique entry vectors observed thus far in 2021.

- A user downloads a malicious email attachment that, when opened, initiates a payload that downloads and installs a QakBot variant of malware. In at least one case, the version of QakBot we observed collected emails stored on the local system, archived them and exfiltrated them to an attacker controlled server.

- In one instance, a malicious ZIP file attachment containing a macro-embedded Excel file that led to an Ursnif infection was used to initially compromise the victim network. Several actors utilized compromised credentials to access internet-facing systems via RDP. It’s unclear how the actors gained access to the credentials in these instances.

- An actor exploited a vulnerability in a client SonicWall appliance categorized as CVE-2021-20016 to gain access to credentials needed to access the environment.

- An actor utilized the Exchange CVE-2021-27065 and CVE-2021-26855 vulnerabilities to gain access to an internet-facing Exchange server, which ultimately allowed the actor to create a local administrator account named “admin” that was added to the “Remote Desktop Users” group.

Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by hyperman1 on Thursday July 08, 2021 @08:30AM (#27771069)
Excel is a major component of Shadow IT:

* User has an important problem * Central IT will not oblige for whatever good or bad reason * User is both required and forbidden to resolve the problem, decides Central IT can stuff it, and writes a powerfull excel macro. * Other have the same pain, so User's macro gets copied, cloned, weirdly mutated etc... * At some point data has to be exchanged with another company, so they semi accidentally get the macro too. This introduces a required potentially malicious email atachment. * In all of this, everybody conspires to get Central IT out of it, as they will stop the macro and cause much pain and delay for everyone involved. In a lot of cases, Central IT does its utmost best to not officially notice the macro.

This is generally good, as it allows big corporations to survive, even in spite of Central IT. But it also means things like this attack easily happen.

Almost every organisation with more than about 150 people will over time devolve to some kind of soviet state with all kinds of institutionalized insanity. As long as humanity has not solved that sociological problem, this attack is the kind of fallout to expect.

Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by x86_64Ubuntu on Thursday July 08, 2021 @09:27AM (#27771677)
Well, a lot of times it's not that Central IT won't oblige, it's more that the business

1. The busines doesn't want to spend money on procuring or developing a reasonable solution

2. They prefer the organic growth pattern by having a non-IT asset run development instead of having to do the long arduous task of requirements gathering and all the political battles involved.

Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by apercu on Thursday July 08, 2021 @10:55AM (#27772743)
Both of you are right on item one.
Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by ixacto on Thursday July 08, 2021 @12:45PM (#27774530)
Hah yes we did this at the last company I worked for to categorize shipping info from our freight company’s api to an excel spreadsheet. Mostly did it because we didn’t want to check email all the time and IT did not want to give us a vps to run it on.
Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by mc32 on Thursday July 08, 2021 @10:59AM (#27772801)
This attack apparently departed from previous tactics:

They deployed the payload via a trusted channel (Kaseya) which allowed deployment of any executable via system privs.

They looked for certain AV products and only executed if it was on their list.

They didn't delete shadow copies. (to avoid behavioral detection)

They didn't try to exfiltrate data. (to avoid behavioral detection)

They did a combo of automation and typical hollywood hacker on keyboard command and control.

No dwell time.

Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by darkmoney on Thursday July 08, 2021 @07:55AM (#27770773)
@miohtama ..

You musn't never ever mention Microsoft windows in relation to malware. Remember it's ransomware or banking malware, never windows malware :]

Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by shoto_io on Thursday July 08, 2021 @09:25AM (#27771654)
Supply-chain!
Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by uname_amiy on Thursday July 08, 2021 @05:20AM (#27769778)
The ransomware has code which avoids computers that use Russian[1]

[1]: https://twitter.com/MalwareTechBlog/status/14129099009512202...

Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by boomboomsubban on Thursday July 08, 2021 @05:58AM (#27770027)
Why link to a tweet of a screenshot of a story about the report?

This is the source. https://www.trustwave.com/en-us/resources/blogs/spiderlabs-b...

And as far as I can tell they just arbitrarily claim that without evidence. The way they say it also makes it sound like a partial list of blocked languages, based on former USSR countries like Syria.

Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by curiousgal on Thursday July 08, 2021 @06:22AM (#27770180)
Syria is not a former USSR country my dude.
Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by boomboomsubban on Thursday July 08, 2021 @08:52AM (#27771282)
I'm aware, that's what the report says.
Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by Pokepokalypse on Thursday July 08, 2021 @12:37PM (#27774397)
They were very much a soviet-bloc ally.
Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by jokoon on Thursday July 08, 2021 @06:39AM (#27770280)
Syria has a lot of ties with Russia.
Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by aaron695 on Thursday July 08, 2021 @08:59AM (#27771352)
You think that they don't attack Russian/Ex countries and "Syria" means that claim they are Ex/Russian related is arbitrary?

They famously released Syrian data for free, a month or so later added the Syrian language to the ransomware -

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2019/07/is-revil-the-new-gandcra...

Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by boomboomsubban on Thursday July 08, 2021 @09:13AM (#27771501)
I'm saying they provide no evidence for the claim. They spend a long time going over what is in the config, which they link to, then just say "and they don't target these languages."

Your links supposed anonymous forum post is better evidence, though it's only evidence on the Syria claim is an unlinked announcement and the actions of a group they guess is related.

Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by counternotions on Thursday July 08, 2021 @07:20AM (#27770530)
More on this:

> When Russian hackers do target victims in Russia, Moscow’s response is swift and harsh. In 2012, eight men were arrested by Russian police after stealing some $4 million from several dozen banks, including some in Russia. According to security blogger Brian Krebs, “Russian police released a video showing one of the suspects loudly weeping in the moments following a morning raid on his home.”

https://carnegieendowment.org/2018/02/02/why-russian-governm...

Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by tyingq on Thursday July 08, 2021 @09:11AM (#27771472)
Apparently, just having a Russian keyboard defined, but not active, provides some defense. And this detection code is apparently in many ransomware packages, not just for this group.
Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by prox on Thursday July 08, 2021 @12:54PM (#27774683)
I had this when doing some work for a company that worked in China. I had to use a Chinese android app, but because I can’t read it I infected my machine with all kinds of malware. The app even had 100k downloads so my guard wasn’t up. I think it was some chinese version of youtube I needed.

Apparently the malware kicked in because I didn’t have a chinese keyboard.

After that a chinese friend helped me install the right app and avoid some pitfalls.

Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by _wldu on Thursday July 08, 2021 @11:09AM (#27772951)
REvil host a tor location hidden service (with an RSS feed). If you want the latest news from them, you can follow it (rather than relying on these news outlets and bloggers). It is called, the "Happy Blog" and the "Happy Feed":

http://dnpscnbaix6nkwvystl3yxglz7nteicqrou3t75tpcc5532cztc46...

http://dnpscnbaix6nkwvystl3yxglz7nteicqrou3t75tpcc5532cztc46...

Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by aliasEli on Thursday July 08, 2021 @04:50AM (#27769609)
Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by yoaviram on Thursday July 08, 2021 @06:13AM (#27770130)
Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by bogomipz on Thursday July 08, 2021 @10:23AM (#27772303)
The post states:

>"They encrypt data so that organizations cannot access information, use critical computer systems or restore from backups, and they also steal data and threaten to post it on a leak site (a tactic known as double extortion)."

Can someone say how you would be prevented from restoring from backups? Wouldn't you be able to find a point in time before the ransomware was installed, provided regular backups?

Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by raptor99 on Thursday July 08, 2021 @01:02PM (#27774804)
Not if the backups themselves are encrypted/ransomwared.
Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by HPsquared on Thursday July 08, 2021 @10:39AM (#27772523)
Online "backups", I guess.
Re:Understanding REvil: The Ransomware Gang Behind the Kasey... by jokoon on Thursday July 08, 2021 @06:49AM (#27770333)
I'm really curious to learn what kind of people those criminals are.

I guess geopolitics are involved, those groups being protected or helped by some countries like Russia or China. Biden showed Putin a "no hit list" of cyber targets that are off limits.

I guess the world is very close from passing regulations and laws regarding cyber security standards.