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Re:Corona Game: A simulation of how Covid-19 spreads by jdavis703 on Wednesday July 07, 2021 @07:50PM (#27767079)
The game is modeled around mid-sized European nations. Westerners care so much about privacy and freedom that hard lockdowns and extensive contact tracing is politically impossible.
Re:Corona Game: A simulation of how Covid-19 spreads by idonotknowwhy on Wednesday July 07, 2021 @07:56PM (#27767118)
Australians and New Zealanders are westerners too
Re:Corona Game: A simulation of how Covid-19 spreads by H8crilA on Wednesday July 07, 2021 @08:08PM (#27767186)
Everything seems to be "west" if you go far enough and allow for sufficient north/south drift.
Re:Corona Game: A simulation of how Covid-19 spreads by vmception on Thursday July 08, 2021 @01:13AM (#27768658)
now that the UK's soft power is crumbling so hard that it reveals them to simply be an island of hooligans, the entire Commonwealth inherits this brand too

in response to what you are saying, we can't exclude the Commonwealth from "the West", but maybe it's about time to make a term that does essentially do that. The complement to the union in graph theory. The West except the Commonwealth.

Re:Corona Game: A simulation of how Covid-19 spreads by moooooooaway on Wednesday July 07, 2021 @09:24PM (#27767586)
NZ is not a great example of an average Western country, with regards to a pandemic.

For one thing, it is a small and remote island.

For another thing, it supplies most of the world's sterile bovine serums because the country has never had a case of mad cow disease. Laugh all you want, but that's a lucrative market and they are very good at border controls.

Re:Corona Game: A simulation of how Covid-19 spreads by zinckiwi on Wednesday July 07, 2021 @10:24PM (#27767897)
Almost exactly the same size as the island of Great Britain, and while distanced somewhat as the crow flies, precisely one (1) plane fight away from many places.
Re:Corona Game: A simulation of how Covid-19 spreads by below43 on Wednesday July 07, 2021 @10:48PM (#27768014)
Hmm... Remote, yes, but wouldn't describe it as a small island. It's actually a collection of island, of a similar land mass to Great Britain or Japan.

But yes, being remote, and being islands surrounded by lots of ocean definitely helps.

Re:Corona Game: A simulation of how Covid-19 spreads by EdwardDiego on Wednesday July 07, 2021 @11:44PM (#27768268)
NZ is not a single island :)

Also, both of our largest islands are far larger than Czechia. The South Island/Te Waipounamu is over twice the size of Czechia.

Re:Corona Game: A simulation of how Covid-19 spreads by bpodgursky on Wednesday July 07, 2021 @11:55PM (#27768306)
Ok, but the core issue you're intentionally ignoring is that nobody wanders into New Zealand without being vetted by border control. Except for a couple of oddballs who boat in (to a couple specific ports) every single person comes through an international import.
Re:Corona Game: A simulation of how Covid-19 spreads by austhrow743 on Thursday July 08, 2021 @02:59AM (#27769083)
The core issue you and everyone else who makes this islands arguement is intentionally ignoring is that no country has been flooded with covid spreaders through a practical inability to enforce its borders. That Czechia or anywhere else doesn't only have people coming in through a couple specific locations is a policy decision. They could effectively be an island if they wanted to.
Re:Corona Game: A simulation of how Covid-19 spreads by bpodgursky on Thursday July 08, 2021 @10:06AM (#27772100)
The US has tried and failed for 80 years to close its southern border.

Unless you're suggesting the US station ten million soldiers on the border and shoot anyone who tries to enter (hint: this is not politically feasible) closing the US is hopeless.

Re:Corona Game: A simulation of how Covid-19 spreads by EdwardDiego on Friday July 09, 2021 @02:36AM (#27781010)
How much Covid came from Mexico, and not through the airports? The Mexican border is a trojan horse in this discussion.
Re:Corona Game: A simulation of how Covid-19 spreads by bpodgursky on Friday July 09, 2021 @11:24AM (#27784634)
It doesn't matter "how much" came through. If even a handful of cases come through the border, and you have no internal restrictions, it's exponential spread. You either have 100% hard borders, or there's no point.
Re:Corona Game: A simulation of how Covid-19 spreads by EdwardDiego on Friday July 09, 2021 @02:37AM (#27781019)
Sure, it's definitely easier to enter Czechia illegally than NZ.

...so how much Covid was brought to Czechia by illegal entry?

Re:Corona Game: A simulation of how Covid-19 spreads by guscost on Wednesday July 07, 2021 @07:59PM (#27767143)
Glad this lesson was finally learned, if nothing else.