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Re:Ask HN: How aware are you about building decentralised so... by BugsJustFindMe on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @12:17PM (#27750539)
> you can just build software and it will "run" forever, at no cost to the developer.

We already have software that runs at no cost to the developer. It's called software.

Re:Ask HN: How aware are you about building decentralised so... by bombcar on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @12:29PM (#27750728)
That's the main problem with many of the "blockchain" solutions - is that they're just reimplementations of already-existing solutions to problems.

You can run someone else's software and pay for the actual running thereof, it's called installing it on a virtual machine (and things like the AWS Marketplace exist for turn-key solutions). Maybe something "microtransactiony" could happen here - but why would you need a blockchain when AWS can just make "Marketplace for normal people"?

And many of the other solutions provided end up having a central authority, in which case why not just have ... a database? Amusingly enough most crypto exchanges are internally run not on a blockchain but on a database, even though in theory one entirely on a blockchain might be a workable use case.

Re:Ask HN: How aware are you about building decentralised so... by sprafa on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @12:34PM (#27750795)
Huh? Are you not familiar with uniswap? That’s a fully decentralised exchange running on blockchain.
Re:Ask HN: How aware are you about building decentralised so... by bombcar on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @12:48PM (#27751040)
Interesting - I expected there to be one, but I've never heard of it compared to the big-names.
Re:Ask HN: How aware are you about building decentralised so... by DennisP on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @01:28PM (#27751655)
You might not have heard of it but it does significant volume. For example, if you look at the USDC markets and sort by 24-hour volume, you'll see that Uniswap is at the top.

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/usd-coin#markets

Re:Ask HN: How aware are you about building decentralised so... by sprafa on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @01:15PM (#27751477)
Uniswap is relatively new - started really working last year. There are large numbers of decentralised exchanges now.
Re:Ask HN: How aware are you about building decentralised so... by chrisco255 on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @12:49PM (#27751067)
Because we tried the whole centralized database thing and it just leads to trillion dollar monopolies built on value extraction of users and open source developers.
Re:Ask HN: How aware are you about building decentralised so... by sprafa on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @03:11PM (#27753009)
Yep
Re:Ask HN: How aware are you about building decentralised so... by dehrmann on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @12:41PM (#27750927)
> they're just reimplementations of already-existing solutions to problems

They're also federated, but at the cost of being exponentially more expensive to run.

Re:Ask HN: How aware are you about building decentralised so... by sprafa on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @12:29PM (#27750731)
How do you run an Uber replacement app at no cost to the developer ?
Re:Ask HN: How aware are you about building decentralised so... by DennisP on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @12:42PM (#27750941)
If it's just software running locally, you don't have common data with global consensus on updates.

If you have the common data, it's on a central database and the developer is paying for it.

Blockchains give you the common data without the developer paying.

Re:Ask HN: How aware are you about building decentralised so... by nonameiguess on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @01:43PM (#27751854)
This doesn't remove cost. It just imposes it on the owners of blockchain nodes, which presently don't charge anything because crypto coins shooting through the roof means they can pay for running the node by just holding coins. This can't stay the case forever. Pushing cost somewhere else doesn't remove it.
Re:Ask HN: How aware are you about building decentralised so... by DennisP on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @02:04PM (#27752137)
I don't think anyone here argued that blockchains are totally free to run, just that developers don't have to pay. Mainly the costs are paid by users, who pay fees to miners for running their transactions.

You don't have to run a node to hold coins. A piece of paper can do it.

Re:Ask HN: How aware are you about building decentralised so... by momothereal on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @12:32PM (#27750767)
There's a significant amount of software that is ran by the developer (hosting) at a cost to the developer. The idea here is that the user pays for the hosting directly instead.
Re:Ask HN: How aware are you about building decentralised so... by nonameiguess on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @02:01PM (#27752102)
You don't need a blockchain to charge your users a fee.