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Re:Israel data reportedly shows efficacy drop of Pfizer-BioN... by mizzack on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @09:27AM (#27748218)
What's going on on page 12?

35,251 unvax cases, 34 deaths

4,087 full vax cases, 26 deaths (!?)

I'm guessing the vax population still skews older?

Re:Israel data reportedly shows efficacy drop of Pfizer-BioN... by shoto_io on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @09:44AM (#27748413)
Good catch. I assume the first number includes mostly children since Delta is mostly spreading through schools and children won't get any vaccine.
Re:Israel data reportedly shows efficacy drop of Pfizer-BioN... by admiral33 on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @09:41AM (#27748377)
Interesting. 57% fully vaccinated with phizer in Israel and 55% of new cases are vaccinated. Looks pretty even unlike what this report from the UK shows, hopefully the mortality rate is lower with phizer...
Re:Israel data reportedly shows efficacy drop of Pfizer-BioN... by mizzack on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @09:45AM (#27748422)
> Looks like a pretty even split unlike what this report from the UK shows

Israel's overall vax rate is higher than UK, so that would be expected to a degree.

Re:Israel data reportedly shows efficacy drop of Pfizer-BioN... by stavros on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @10:57AM (#27749477)
There's also page 14 here, where more vaccinated than unvaccinated patients died:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...

Very odd, especially given the much higher numbers of unvaccinated hospitalizations.

Re:Israel data reportedly shows efficacy drop of Pfizer-BioN... by shoto_io on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @11:11AM (#27749639)
I’m pretty sure this can be explained by the age distributions. Key part is page 44 where they calculate risks.
Re:Israel data reportedly shows efficacy drop of Pfizer-BioN... by stavros on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @12:20PM (#27750589)
Ah, interesting, thanks! I was wondering.
Re:Israel data reportedly shows efficacy drop of Pfizer-BioN... by maxerickson on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @11:55AM (#27750213)
Probably older, and then also the vaccinated people that seek medical care likely had less of an immune response to the vaccine.