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Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by MR4D on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @06:28AM (#27746419)
95 of the shootings (roughly 1/4 of them) were in Chicago [0].

The Chicago MSA is just under 3% of the US population, and about 25% of the shootings.

[0] - https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/criminal-justice/ct-inde...

Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by DoreenMichele on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @06:45AM (#27746549)
Wow. I wonder if the high rates of lead poisoning in Chicago have anything to do with that stat.

Based on those figures, more than 10 percent of young children tested in the city had troublesome lead levels that year — about four times the national average.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/investigations/ct-lead-poison...

Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by me_me_me on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @06:31AM (#27746439)
That is a jaw drop statistic. This is just insane.
Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by ortusdux on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @10:35AM (#27749180)
Chicago uses ShotSpotter, a system that uses microphones to triangulate gun shots. They claim to be able to differentiate between fireworks and gun fire, but I wonder if the sheer volume of fireworks on the 4th makes it the ideal time for a shooting spree.

https://www.shotspotter.com/news/how-does-shotspotter-differ...

Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by hk1337 on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @07:55AM (#27747187)
And the most strictest gun laws
Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by ryandvm on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @11:00AM (#27749512)
Strict local gun laws in the United States is a like having a "no peeing" section in a pool.
Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by RickJWagner on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @10:10PM (#27756627)
I don't think that's true.

I've lived in rural states all my life. Almost all my family and friends have guns. (Hunting is a big hobby.)

I have never known anyone that shot a person. I've never had a relative or friend get shot (except one cousin who unfortunately purposefully shot himself.)

In other words, the number of guns don't cause crime.

Why take away cars from everybody because some people drive drunk? No? Why take away guns from people who use them responsibly?

Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by hk1337 on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @12:26PM (#27750677)
"Welcome to our OOL!"
Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by swiley on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @08:50AM (#27747783)
Guns are illegal in Chicago too.
Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by JohnTHaller on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @09:21AM (#27748135)
Guns are legal everywhere around Chicago including all neighboring states which have much weaker gun laws than Illinois.
Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by laverya on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @03:57PM (#27753477)
As far as I'm aware, you can't buy a gun from an FFL (a gun store, or anyone whose business involves selling guns) in a neighboring state without presenting an Illinois Firearms Owner Identification card. And most (all?) gun stores will refuse to sell you a gun that they know would be illegal in Illinois if you live there.

Most of the guns used in crimes in Chicago are illegally owned handguns, acquired through straw purchases and theft. Handguns that are legal to own in Illinois, even.

Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by swiley on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @05:16PM (#27754363)
Light firearms are probably easier to manufacture than pellet rifles. You're kidding yourself if you think they won't start making them.
Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by swiley on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @09:37AM (#27748328)
You don't think people who are willing to break the law this way won't just manufacture them?
Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by JohnTHaller on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @09:53AM (#27748546)
Are you comparing driving to another state to buy a gun with manufacturing a gun?
Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by swiley on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @09:58AM (#27748609)
I'm comparing driving to another state to driving to an illicit gun smith.
Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by drewbug01 on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @11:44AM (#27750053)
I'm not sure precisely what you're trying to say here - but my intuition is that you're saying "people will illicitly manufacture guns in Illinois and people will patronize them rather than drive over to another state to purchase guns."

If that is what you're saying (and please, clarify if it's not!) - it's worth knowing that both Wisconsin and Indiana are a 90 minute drive from Chicago city limits, so any illicit manufacturing has to compete with the ease of a relatively short drive to purchase in another state.

I think sometimes people forget just how close Chicago is to other states.

Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by cryptical on Wednesday July 07, 2021 @01:24PM (#27763574)
An Illinois resident cannot legally buy a gun in another state without shipping it to a FFL in Illinois and getting a background check done there before taking possession.

So the argument that Chicago residents can skirt gun control laws by crossing state lines is false.

Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by swiley on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @11:47AM (#27750103)
No. "The only reason people aren't manufacturing guns illicitly in Illinois right now is because it's easier to drive to the next state" is a little closer.
Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by etcet on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @11:27AM (#27749820)
Plenty of handguns, shotguns, and lever and bolt action rifles are legal to own in Chicago.
Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by deviledeggs on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @07:45AM (#27747093)
I'm convinced Chicago is unfixable. The south side has been so poor for so long it's basically a third world country.

The best solution is a planned dismantlement of the irredeemable parts of the city. And relocate those people somewhere they stand a chance of finding a job.

When rust belt manufacturing died Chicago had no jobs for a million people. And in 60 years the situation hasn't changed much

Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by dmos62 on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @06:32AM (#27746452)
I enjoy the nickname Chiraq (as in Ch-Iraq). I've had French acquintances perplexed by this term, because there's been a French president called Jacques Chirac (pronounced the same way).
Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by HKH2 on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @10:18AM (#27748946)
Not quite the same. The French 'i' is an 'ee' sound.
Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by deviledeggs on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @07:47AM (#27747109)
Chiraq isn't an insult, that's what people living there call it.
Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by dmos62 on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @08:47AM (#27747759)
Chiraq is calling Chicago a warzone. I never thought it was an insult.
Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by timelesscop on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @08:22AM (#27747481)
No we don't, 99.9% of Chicagoans aren't drill rappers.
Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by deviledeggs on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @01:57PM (#27752042)
Hahaha. I lived there and we called it that all the time. More common among friends living on south side tho
Re:150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over t... by cpher on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @07:52PM (#27755821)
I live on the southside and I don't hear anyone calling it Chiraq.