News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Audacity fork without any sentry telemetry or crash repor... by ploxiln on Monday July 05, 2021 @08:02PM (#27742983)
How did Audacity gain it's popularity over the past 15 years, without any of this stuff?

Did you use computers 15 years ago? Linux desktop and open source tools? Nothing had this crap back then, and some of it was pretty good. Audacity itself is an example!

Open source software is not a commercial product. You don't need to prioritize and optimize for engagement or market share or any such crap. Just fix what you want, fix what you can, interested capable users will contribute attempted fixes for their own problems and you incorporate them if they make sense to the project.

I don't think telemetry has ever resulted in good software, it just pushes everything towards being an iPad with one button on it. Only skilled tasteful developers make good software, and that was true long before telemetry existed.

Re:Audacity fork without any sentry telemetry or crash repor... by djur on Monday July 05, 2021 @08:20PM (#27743093)
Audacity does a lot of useful stuff and it's free + cross-platform, and that's a major source of its popularity. But it's always had usability and stability issues for as long as I've used it (and that's at least 15 years).
Re:Audacity fork without any sentry telemetry or crash repor... by veeti on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @12:25AM (#27744219)
Sorry to burst your bubble, but mainstream Linux distributions have been collecting crash reports for a looong time.

[1] https://errors.ubuntu.com/ [2] https://developer.fedoraproject.org/tools/abrt/about.html

Re:Audacity fork without any sentry telemetry or crash repor... by ploxiln on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @12:56AM (#27744371)
I'm aware, I use ubuntu, and my server provisioning scripts remove all the useless bloatware, abrt and apport and landscape etc etc, of which there seems to be a bit more each year. On my personal systems I use Arch linux and customize my kernel.

Actual fixes overwhelmingly come from individuals manually reporting weird lockups and backtraces, often taking the initiative to bisect the issue to a particular commit.

Re:Audacity fork without any sentry telemetry or crash repor... by jjulius on Monday July 05, 2021 @08:06PM (#27743022)
To strengthen your point, it's actually been out for 21 years. :)