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Re:European Citizen's Initiative for UBI by ericmay on Monday July 05, 2021 @01:35PM (#27740100)
How would that work in practice? Wouldn't people just move to the higher UBI areas?
Re:European Citizen's Initiative for UBI by isbvhodnvemrwvn on Monday July 05, 2021 @01:39PM (#27740146)
Freedom of movement in the EU is conditional on you contributing to the economy; if you move just for the benefits, you will be kicked out (in theory)
Re:European Citizen's Initiative for UBI by axiosgunnar on Monday July 05, 2021 @02:48PM (#27740773)
What about asylum seekers and war refugees?
Re:European Citizen's Initiative for UBI by isbvhodnvemrwvn on Monday July 05, 2021 @03:04PM (#27740935)
Not citizens, they don't have any freedom of movement to start with.
Re:European Citizen's Initiative for UBI by heavyset_go on Monday July 05, 2021 @09:09PM (#27743337)
Most of them will not be able to work unless, or until, they're granted work visas.
Re:European Citizen's Initiative for UBI by slg on Monday July 05, 2021 @01:37PM (#27740117)
The higher UBI areas would also be higher cost of living areas so in the right setup there would be little incentive to move just for UBI benefits.
Re:European Citizen's Initiative for UBI by Beaver117 on Monday July 05, 2021 @01:43PM (#27740186)
But you would get to live in a higher cost area, at no cost to you.
Re:European Citizen's Initiative for UBI by slg on Monday July 05, 2021 @01:59PM (#27740338)
What is the motive to live in a high cost of living area? Usually the two biggest reasons are economic and social opportunity. Economic opportunity is irrelevant in this instance if UBI cancels out in the two locations. Will there be enough social opportunities for people to leave their friends, family, and home country to move to a higher cost of living area?
Re:European Citizen's Initiative for UBI by Etheryte on Monday July 05, 2021 @01:53PM (#27740281)
The exact same is already true for minimum wage and salary in general, and while some people do migrate, there has arguably been no society-ending migration wave due to this reason. This is a common trope that has no basis whatsoever.
Re:European Citizen's Initiative for UBI by lu4p on Monday July 05, 2021 @01:56PM (#27740309)
Although you can move freely to any country, to recieve benefits in a most countries you need to have had a job for 3 months before you can claim any benefits.