Re:Canada battles more than 180 wildfires with hundreds dead...
by mistrial9 on Monday July 05, 2021 @11:03AM
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but you are arguing a talking point from a decade ago -- China is definitely taking actions to diversify its power generation with solar production, convert existing systems to electrical inputs, use higher-efficiency parts like LED lighting, and other important steps. They are competing directly in science with the West in publications and PR and business cases.
This re-hash amongst Western chatty people is well-intentioned perhaps, but the targets really are moving as this debate has not.
action on the ground using the above mentioned fact-based changes is called for now, right?
Re:Canada battles more than 180 wildfires with hundreds dead...
by alkonaut on Monday July 05, 2021 @11:13AM
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> but you are arguing a talking point from a decade ago -- China is definitely taking actions to diversify its power generation, convert to electrical inputs, use higher-efficiency parts like LED lighting, and other important steps.
Indeed. But the major argument against doing anything in the west is still based on the idea that it's futile so long as china doesn't do more.
Re:Canada battles more than 180 wildfires with hundreds dead...
by kergonath on Monday July 05, 2021 @11:14AM
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> This re-hash amongst Western chatty people is well-intentioned perhaps, but the targets really are moving as this debate has not.
It’s not. It’s an excuse for doing nothing whilst blaming the Chinese.
And regardless - for the sake of solidarity with the developing world I think it must be considered fair that us westerners take a bigger responsibility than developing countries.
There are two arguments here that are both equally valid: 1) This just won't work unless everyone is on the same page, including China 2) This just won't work unless the west accepts an unconditional change of lifestyle regardless of which if any other countries are on board.