We have to make general purpose computers secure or they die out except for servers and hobbyists.

We have to make GP computer users accept the inconvenience of security, or GP computers will die out.

I don’t think that’s a viable plan.

I’ve seen countless HN and HN-alike folks talk about how they hold the root ssh keys to their kingdoms on a Mac that they’ve disabled SIP on, simply because it inconvenienced them one time (and not for genuine technological necessity).

If you can think of a way to change our collective minds, you have my support, but I’ve tried everything I know and essentially given up talking about such things on HN anymore. Everyone who understands is already doing the right things; everyone that isn’t talks as loudly as possible about their way of doing it, and swarm to shut down any suggestion that they should burden themselves with security.

Good luck.

There are many people that wants child rapists to get death penalty, a lot of people liked Bush, Trump or Putin, or believe some guy living 2000 years ago did wonderful things against the laws of physics. They are not really thinking about the consequences on society, they don't know how a computer work and what is going to happen if behemoths get in control of their entire life, which is well on its way.

Because a computer is not your regular run off the mill appliance. It drives the way people communicate, think, consume, are informed and monitored.