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Re:The scientists hired by big oil who predicted the climate... by kybernetyk on Friday July 02, 2021 @12:01PM (#27713221)
>their crimes against the world

like what? bringing us efficient and cheap fertilizers to stop world hunger? allowing for wide use of polymers? enabling modern drugs? lifting up our whole civilization from the steam age into the information age?

Re:The scientists hired by big oil who predicted the climate... by hallarempt on Friday July 02, 2021 @12:04PM (#27713263)
Like, knowingly turning the planet into an uninhabitable place, killing millions in the process, destroying huge tracts of property with impunity, knowing they were doing this _and hiding it_.

If that isn't a crime, what is?

Re:The scientists hired by big oil who predicted the climate... by likecarter on Friday July 02, 2021 @12:08PM (#27713323)
They never did this. They just enabled you to run your diesel-generator during blackouts in California.
Re:The scientists hired by big oil who predicted the climate... by hallarempt on Saturday July 03, 2021 @08:04AM (#27721042)
a) I don't have a diesel generator b) I am not in California c) I have never experienced a blackout d) Yes, the oil companies did all of that.
Re:The scientists hired by big oil who predicted the climate... by ArkanExplorer on Friday July 02, 2021 @12:22PM (#27713524)
Population of France 1891: 39.6 million

2020: 65 million

2100: 65 million

Population of DR Congo 1891: 8.23 million

2020: 90 million (about 8 million rely on food aid to survive)

2100: 362 million

Europe and the West can feed themselves without cheap fertilizer, they have done so for 200 years (about the time since the last major famine in France).

Cheap fertilizer is just leading to unsustainable population explosions in the developing world, where the reproduction strategies of men (these are patriachal societies where women lack consistent access to education, contraception, abortion) will inevitably push the ecosystem to its limits.

We are essentially in violation of the Prime Directive in terms of the free food, goods, technology we are giving some of these countries.