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Re:British right to repair law excludes smartphones and comp... by chrisseaton on Thursday July 01, 2021 @02:48PM (#27702903)
> Why journalists don't call it as fraud?

Because it's not fraud.

Fraud requires obtaining a valuable security by deception. That's not what's going on here. So it's not fraud.

Re:British right to repair law excludes smartphones and comp... by raxxorrax on Friday July 02, 2021 @06:27AM (#27709823)
It is protectionism of their business model for customer support, which is a profit center in many modern companies by now. They are not honest about that so you can call that fraud.
Re:British right to repair law excludes smartphones and comp... by varispeed on Thursday July 01, 2021 @02:57PM (#27703018)
Fraud - wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.

It's very much what's going on here.

Re:British right to repair law excludes smartphones and comp... by chrisseaton on Thursday July 01, 2021 @02:58PM (#27703045)
There's absolutely no way you could convince a judge that this was fraud. You can't just pick some legal term that sounds familiar and say that's what's going on. These terms have very specific meanings based on extensive case law.
Re:British right to repair law excludes smartphones and comp... by cmendel on Thursday July 01, 2021 @04:06PM (#27704018)
Right, so not to put words in varispeed mouth. But their claim is that Right-to-repair that doesn't give you the Right to repair what they want the right to repair is deliberately deceptive and, thus, fraudulent.

The damages would be that the product that they wish to repair are irreparable.

Re:British right to repair law excludes smartphones and comp... by chrisseaton on Thursday July 01, 2021 @04:12PM (#27704094)
I don't know what to tell you apart from that's not what 'fraud' is in practice. Things being not what you want and someone having spent money does not equal fraud. You can't just pick a legal term and interpret it as literal English without any knowledge of the actual precedent around it.

I don't know if you think the entire legislation is the words 'right to repair'? It obviously isn't - it's far more nuanced than that.

Re:British right to repair law excludes smartphones and comp... by pessimizer on Thursday July 01, 2021 @07:00PM (#27705958)
> You can't just pick a legal term and interpret it as literal English without any knowledge of the actual precedent around it.

That's exactly what you are doing. You responded to somebody typing literal English with an spurious debate about a legal term no one asked about and is different depending on what jurisdiction you live in.

Re:British right to repair law excludes smartphones and comp... by chrisseaton on Thursday July 01, 2021 @07:28PM (#27706181)
The jurisdiction is Britain (meaning the UK). It's literally in the title of the thread.
Re:British right to repair law excludes smartphones and comp... by atq2119 on Friday July 02, 2021 @02:26AM (#27708379)
You do realize that words can have both a legal and a colloquial meaning, right?

People say stuff like "he's a fraud" all the time without meaning that in a precise legal sense.