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Re:HK media erase their archives amid rising arrests by bhawks on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @12:07AM (#27684758)
> Here you appear to know that the real strategy is waiting. Eventually, Xi will die, and it's more likely than not that his successors will liberalize.

What leads you to think this will be the case?

The west has been trying to spread liberal democracy for over the past 100 years. It is successful in some places, but not in others. There doesn't seem to be magic formula, and as technology disrupts human interactions it feels like existing liberal democracies are at risk.

I want to share your optimism. Orwell's vision of the future being a boot stomping on a person's head forever feels a little too close to being a reality.

I don't think passively waiting for more benevolent masters is a winning strategy.

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Re:HK media erase their archives amid rising arrests by GordonS on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @04:22AM (#27686238)
> The west has been trying to spread liberal democracy for over the past 100 years. It is successful in some places, but not in others.

I think success largely depends on how democracy arrives - we've seen time and time again that forcing it upon a country (whether by military force or the more skullduggerous, CIA kind of force) is doomed to failure. I believe it needs to come naturally, slowly, over time.

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Re:HK media erase their archives amid rising arrests by wolverine876 on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @12:05PM (#27690192)
It's hard to deliver democracy and freedom by oppressive means; the means undermine the ends.

However, it's also a common error of the privileged to consign the suffering to wait for a slow, gradual process that results in their entire lives passing by, and those of their children and grandchildren, etc.

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