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Re:Canada to make online hate speech a crime punishable by fine by smt88 on Monday June 28, 2021 @04:06AM (#27659199)
There is no society (existing or historical) where freedom of speech was absolute. There have always been consequences for some types of speech.

The US conception of freedom of speech is basically, "Your ideological speech is safe from government censorship, but not from anyone else's." And even that has been unevenly supported by courts over time.

So while your philosophy is interesting, it seems to have little to do with the way societies actually behave.

Re:Canada to make online hate speech a crime punishable by fine by fghfghfghfghfgh on Monday June 28, 2021 @06:24AM (#27660001)
Consequences and freedom are two separate things don't you think?

If you openly state that you hate a certain group of people that will have consequences. I still support your freedom to to so.

Re:Canada to make online hate speech a crime punishable by fine by lm28469 on Monday June 28, 2021 @06:51AM (#27660182)
That doesn't make much sense to me. You're not "free" to do X if X is punished by law.

By that logic you're also free to kill your neighbor, you'll just suffer consequences.

Re:Canada to make online hate speech a crime punishable by fine by fghfghfghfghfgh on Monday June 28, 2021 @07:18AM (#27660375)
We are talking about freedom to speak - not freedom to kill.
Re:Canada to make online hate speech a crime punishable by fine by nybble41 on Monday June 28, 2021 @05:58PM (#27668745)
There is a difference between social consequences (e.g. ostracism) and legal consequences (e.g. fines, imprisonment, corporal punishment).