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Re:Show HN: A machine that detects when you text and drive t... by mosselman on Monday June 28, 2021 @02:17AM (#27658673)
I find much of the responses here frustrating. I see a lot of “getting shocked is more dangerous”. What the hell? How is blindly driving a car through some urban area more dangerous than a small shock?

I see so many drivers not engaging with what is happening around them, just so they can send some image or read some celebrity gossip or whatever the fuck people are doing on their phones. I think even stabbing them in the arm with a pencil a few times whenever they touch their phone would be less dangerous than letting people continue like this.

I really don’t get it, in the 10+ years I’ve had my driver license I have never texted and driven. Not once. I HAVE had to brake for people on bikes, children, other cars, etc. As everyone has. I have also had drivers who were texting almost hit me while on foot because they weren’t looking up. It is just a matter of time for someone to get killed by you if you use your phone while driving: the street looks empty, you look down to text Bob “lol I know right” and boom, some child just popped out from behind of a moving car and you killed it. Wtf are people doing?

Re:Show HN: A machine that detects when you text and drive t... by giantg2 on Monday June 28, 2021 @11:09AM (#27662933)
The idea of it being more dangerous is that you have someone who isn't aware of their surroundings and then you apply a shock that surprises them, some people will react with erratic movement, increasing the chance that they will "blindly" hit something.

So essentially the shock is adding a confounding factor to the focal impairment. The only way the shock can reduce the overall risk is through prevention. You could do that through other less dangerous methods like charging them money instead of supplying a shock.

Re:Show HN: A machine that detects when you text and drive t... by gknoy on Monday June 28, 2021 @04:23PM (#27667508)
Getting charged money, unless you have some audible ping or something, won't be noticed, so you don't have the immediacy of the enforcement.

Great point on the danger of being shocked while driving, though.

Re:Show HN: A machine that detects when you text and drive t... by giantg2 on Monday June 28, 2021 @04:27PM (#27667578)
I mean, if they're looking at their phone a push notification that overlays the texting app should be pretty disruptive to the act of texting and immediately enforce it.

Actually, I'm not sure if the overlay is possible, but a phone call would be pretty intrusive and on speaker phone / hands-free would be ok.

Re:Show HN: A machine that detects when you text and drive t... by MrYellowP on Monday June 28, 2021 @07:09PM (#27669510)
The first reaction will be trying to remove that notification, which helps nothing.

It seems that the best course of action would be locking out the user from the ability to text while driving, because whatever signal the user is getting is going to add to the time spent not looking where he should, but when the user can not text while driving, this time will always be zero.

(at least in regards to texting)

Re:Show HN: A machine that detects when you text and drive t... by giantg2 on Tuesday June 29, 2021 @10:11AM (#27675986)
Yeah, but we're talking about the voluntary system shown. If they are just removing the notification, then would they have installed it in the first place?