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Re:Crazy Conclusions in Early Childhood by iamflimflam1 on Sunday June 27, 2021 @04:46AM (#27649777)
I remember as a child being extremely puzzled as to how glass worked. I could not understand how something solid could be transparent. I had seen that when things moved quickly they seemed to become translucent so I came to the conclusion that glass was made up of tiny cogs, all moving extremely quickly. It never made complete sense though. I must have driven my parents insane with my constant questions of how glass really works. Frustratingly I don’t think they really understood why I was so fascinated by it.
Re:Crazy Conclusions in Early Childhood by andi999 on Sunday June 27, 2021 @06:00AM (#27650147)
Sounds not less intuitive than the band gap explanation. How did you explain color tinted windows?
Re:Crazy Conclusions in Early Childhood by animal531 on Sunday June 27, 2021 @07:25AM (#27650643)
My mother and I had a multi-year argument going about a house we drove past (when I just entered school). One of us argued that they had color tinted windows, whereas the other argued that it was just the color of their curtains.
Re:Crazy Conclusions in Early Childhood by lugged on Sunday June 27, 2021 @06:18AM (#27650243)
Colored cogs.
Re:Crazy Conclusions in Early Childhood by barrkel on Sunday June 27, 2021 @06:20AM (#27650263)
Even weirder is how glass is partially reflective. What mechanism lets some light through but sends other light off in such a regular ordered way?
Re:Crazy Conclusions in Early Childhood by darkerside on Sunday June 27, 2021 @09:07AM (#27651272)
Crystals are by definition ordered by a very regular pattern. I don't fully understand the mechanism, but I'm not surprised that it exists.
Re:Crazy Conclusions in Early Childhood by kmm on Sunday June 27, 2021 @10:13AM (#27651706)
But glass isn't crystalline, it's amorphous, there's not really any order there on the atomic level.
Re:Crazy Conclusions in Early Childhood by darkerside on Sunday June 27, 2021 @04:22PM (#27654946)
Glass is not a crystal. Not sure what I was thinking. No idea why its surface is reflective.
Re:Crazy Conclusions in Early Childhood by nate_meurer on Sunday June 27, 2021 @06:10PM (#27655954)
Any abrupt change in refractive index, either higher or lower, will result in reflections. This can be somewhat intuited by analogy to sound waves, which reflect off of abrupt material density transitions.

This is how anti-reflective coatings work-- by "smoothing" the transition using materials that have intermediate refractive indices. E.g., flourite coatings on glass lenses.

Re:Crazy Conclusions in Early Childhood by barrkel on Sunday June 27, 2021 @07:37PM (#27656499)
I don't think people necessarily have an intuition about sound waves reflecting on material density transitions (the obvious one is air vs water but I guess unless you grew up near a lake or slow river you wouldn't know much about it), and I don't think it's clear how such an intuition - if present - would transfer from sound, which has a transmission medium, to light, which doesn't.

Sound is transmitted by waves of compression and decompression in the medium. In the reflection scenario that's is ultimately molecules of air and water hitting the boundary and transmitting some kinetic energy into the other medium and bouncing back, to some degree. You can visualize it as marbles hitting each other.

It's much harder to do the same for light.

Re:Crazy Conclusions in Early Childhood by nate_meurer on Monday June 28, 2021 @03:02AM (#27658865)
If I think about the wave nature of light, then a material's refractive index is sort of the "density" of the medium. Light travels more slowly through materials with higher refractive index. As you know, this is actually due to the absorption and retransmission of photons from atom to atom, somewhat analogous to your marbles illustration of sound. Both models support wave-like behavior in aggregate.

Thus, when light moves from a "faster" medium to a "slower" one, refractions and reflections result that are similar in character to acoustic reflections.

That's how I think of it anyway.

Re:Crazy Conclusions in Early Childhood by darkerside on Sunday June 27, 2021 @09:14PM (#27657072)
I think that does make sense. A more extreme example is echos caused by sound bouncing off of solid materials. Definitely intuitive to me, unless someone can again explain why I am wrong. :)

That said, it explains why glass is shiny, but not necessarily why it is reflective. At least to my understanding.

Re:Crazy Conclusions in Early Childhood by agumonkey on Sunday June 27, 2021 @10:03AM (#27651646)
not long ago I learned about metallic glass
Re:Crazy Conclusions in Early Childhood by agumonkey on Sunday June 27, 2021 @10:03AM (#27651643)
isn't empty space made up of virtual particles aka particles with a life time so minute it's basically not there ? :)
Re:Crazy Conclusions in Early Childhood by wyldfire on Sunday June 27, 2021 @10:41AM (#27651937)
The atmosphere on Earth has stable particles -- they have a lifetime similar to other matter on Earth. But their density is so low that light passes through them mostly undisturbed.

Empty space outside of planetary atmosphere is a void, there's "no" particles there (some Hydrogen and Helium and radiation).