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Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by 2939223 on Saturday June 26, 2021 @04:32PM (#27645561)
Nothing more jarring than the harrowing treatment of Assange by the US, contrasted with their subsequent lecturing and sanctioning of Belarus re Roman Protasevich, or Russia re Navalny.

Zero integrity.

Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by lbwtaylor on Saturday June 26, 2021 @04:50PM (#27645710)
Has the US tried to extra judicially murder Assange?
Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by belorn on Saturday June 26, 2021 @05:16PM (#27645958)
Do the US need to extra judicially murder Assange in order to make an example of him?

I can imagine what would happen if Russia tried the same tactic as the US and used diplomatic channels in order to successfully influence the legal systems in countries like the UK and Sweden.

Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by lbwtaylor on Saturday June 26, 2021 @06:33PM (#27646586)
Are you proud of what Assange actually did in Sweden? Taking off a condom mid sex or lying about wearing one?

It's called stealthing and very much a terrible thing to do.

Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by vermilingua on Saturday June 26, 2021 @07:24PM (#27646955)
Those charges magically appeared when the US wanted him on their soil, and equally magically disappeared when it looked like they had their hands on him.

Is inventing a rape charge in order to kidnap a journalist also a terrible thing to do, in your opinion?

Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by belorn on Monday June 28, 2021 @03:59AM (#27659167)
I am very disappointed in Sweden when they chose to spend several millions in disproportion on this case rather than all the other rape and murder cases which Sweden have.

I am disappointed in Sweden that a prosecutor went against Swedish law, was found to be guilty of Swedish law, and yet received no punishment. It the only known case in Swedish history where the crime was public news for years and yet the prosecutor continued without changing course.

I am disappointed that when it became known that US diplomats has been involved in influencing the Swedish case, nothing happen.

I am disappointed that a political active prosecutor took over a case from an other prosecutor in a rather explicit way after getting a "tip" to do so.

I am disappointed that the police somehow "leaked" protected documents to journalist.

I am disappointed that the Swedish government opened the case just after Wikileaks released a bunch of classified diplomatic cables, and dropped the case in order to allow the US to take it over.

I am disappointed that the Swedish government had zero interest in investigate the case.

I am disappointed that the Swedish police ignored the wishes of the women.

If you want to talk about stealthing we can do that, or if Assange is a respectful to his sexual partners, or about the finer details of Swedish categories of the lesser degree sexual offenses. It has nothing more with the actually case, than when a police murder someone for a parking violation. Severe corruption is a separate problem than if Assange are guilty of the Swedish charges or not.

Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by pbak on Sunday June 27, 2021 @12:42PM (#27653029)
You have fallen victim to and are repeating a propaganda lie.

As documented by judicial procedure (Swedish equivalent to FOIA), the "stealthing" was a pure invention by the police. It was added days later _as ordered by email_ by the hierarchical superior of the policewoman who typed the statement of the second woman. This was done against the original wishes of both women, and contrary to what they originally said. Even calling it a statement is a misnomer (read more further on that subject).

That happened after tabloids had published that a rape had allegedly happened, somehow with the name of the victims. The changed was annulled later, after the fact, when this was found out.

Proof/source : you can see said email in full as part of the interview by Republik.ch of the UN Special Reporteur of Torture. Link https://www.republik.ch/2020/01/31/nils-melzer-about-wikilea...

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What the story actually is, as documented as a matter of judicial procedure :

The first woman had had consensual relations with Assange, knowingly without a condom, as she herself witnessed; the second woman had consensual sex one day after; she found out after he left the condom was broken; they found out about each other a little later.

Before asking Assange directly, they wanted to know if they could make Assange take an HIV test. They went to ask a policewoman friend of the first if that was possible. Neither didn't want to make a statement, nor sign one, nor report a crime.

The policewoman wrote it down just in case. Two hours later Swedish tabloids report Assange raped somebody. The condom, as tested later on, somehow contained no DNA of Assange's.

There was lot more fishy happening on the prosecutor's side, but it's beside this comments' points.

Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by Dah00n on Saturday June 26, 2021 @06:59PM (#27646793)
You just lost the discussion.
Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by djrogers on Saturday June 26, 2021 @11:22PM (#27648263)
> Do the US need to extra judicially murder Assange in order to make an example of him?

No, but they’d at least need to attempt it to be tossed in the same bucket as Russia re: Navalny.

Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by 2939223 on Saturday June 26, 2021 @04:51PM (#27645717)
Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by threeseed on Saturday June 26, 2021 @05:06PM (#27645845)
That's an unproven allegation. Navalny was actually poisoned.
Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by ComputerGuru on Saturday June 26, 2021 @05:09PM (#27645884)
These were claims made in court, during formal hearings. They weren’t disputed, and as such, they are part of the official court record and are worth more than random hearsay.

The US’ repsponse (as quoted) was that these allegations were “wholly irrelevant.” That doesn’t sound like a denunciation or denial to me.

Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by threeseed on Saturday June 26, 2021 @05:19PM (#27645982)
Anybody can make claims in court and the US government is hardly going to confirm or deny poisoning someone.

It's an unproven allegation and a world away from Navalny who was actually poisoned.

Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by kcatskcolbdi on Saturday June 26, 2021 @05:35PM (#27646112)
Why would the US government not deny poisoning someone?
Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by lbwtaylor on Saturday June 26, 2021 @06:30PM (#27646557)
I know HN loves Assange but comparing an unsubstantiated stamenent that US persons talked about extreme measures, vs actual poisoning is pretty weak.