Eh, that’s also how projects happen at all, though. The failed ones seem like it was for the sake of someone’s ego. But you need a bit of ego, in a big corporate setting.

I think TFRC was an ego project, rather than an egoless project. Yet TFRC was a wonderful project that happened to work; if it failed, it might seem like an ego project with no point.

I don’t like saying “you need ego,” but it also seems true that you can’t find large corporate projects without it. Are there good counterexamples? I’d like to change my view.

Yes, however, tensorflow is not primarily an ad platform that forcefully replaces an alternative that no one asked for, while simultaneously silently advancing the police/corporate surveillance state at the explicit detriment of average citizens who had no say in the decision.

What is TFRC?

tensorflow I believe

This is why it's important to try and negotiate for as much salary as you can, no matter what you do. Companies are lighting cash on fire all the time, they can afford it.

This. Once you see how the company spends money and how much they pay and effort they spend to hire an average skilled developer... It's empowering. Unfortunately lots of companies have just accepted high turnover rates and move forward. Imo they only do this because quantifying turnover costs is hard.

I agree, but I also meant literally whatever you do, because there are so many people who will work for 20 years never intentionally trying to increase their salary.

Well I'd say maybe 75% of the jobs I've had working for startups are because of something along those lines, so I'm not really complaining...

Well you can take the entire cosmetics and fashion industry for the total for one. Serving human agency includes shallow and bad ones too.

At least those are selling to actual customers. Many big corporate projects seem to be pointless pyramid building for some middle manager’s ego.

It's often someone's boss's ego, gotta get that promotion!

Look at old Victorian clothes. Or even clothes from 50 years ago. Compare them to the clothes of today. Pretty different right? That's the cosmetics and fashion industry at work. You might not like it but at least they're causing real change. Contrast that with this invention which will no doubt go the way of the dodo without anyone even remembering it.

It's not really tossed into a flaming dumpster. Someone with less money is getting it, so that's an upside heh.