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Re:Deep dive into plastic monomers, additives, and processin... by andrekandre on Friday June 25, 2021 @06:37PM (#27637108)
there are lots, such as paper packaging, paper cups, bamboo (for disposable cutlery, packaging etc) there are lots of alternatives

i guess the hardest is plastic food packaging in grocery stores... that plastic is sterile, lightweight and lasts forever (which is good for shelflife, fuel usage etc)... i wonder what airtight alternatives there for that...

Re:Deep dive into plastic monomers, additives, and processin... by tremon on Friday June 25, 2021 @07:04PM (#27637327)
To illustrate: https://greenpaperproducts.com/biodegradable-containers.aspx

From their FAQ:

> Bioresin is a thermoplastic made from organic materials instead of petroleum products. Bioresin is a substitute for PET and polystyrene and can replace polyethylene and polypropylene.

> PLA stands for polylactic acid and is a resin made from corn starch. PLA is used to make clear compostable containers and PLA lining is used in cups and containers as an impermeable liner. PLA is biodegradable, and fully compostable.

> Bagasse is a natural byproduct of sugarcane refinement. Bagasse pulp requires minimal processing and elemental chlorine free (ECF) bleaching to turn it into a woven high-strength paper that is biodegradable and compostable.

Re:Deep dive into plastic monomers, additives, and processin... by ArkanExplorer on Friday June 25, 2021 @06:57PM (#27637273)
Unfortunately, many of those materials are then coated with PFAS:

https://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20170201/many-fast-food-cont...

Which have all of the same problems of plastic.

Re:Deep dive into plastic monomers, additives, and processin... by gumby on Friday June 25, 2021 @06:46PM (#27637180)
glass
Re:Deep dive into plastic monomers, additives, and processin... by andrekandre on Friday June 25, 2021 @06:52PM (#27637225)
i thought about that too, but glass is 1000s of times as heavy, and typically recycling it means re-melting which is wasteful of energy and has carbon emmissions problems

as i see it, the only way that would work is if

1. we reused the glass

2. some national system where someone comes by and pick up the glass for sterilization (like those old 50s milk bottles)

3. standardized glass containers that are mandated/traded across industries

and that still doesnt fix the usage of fuels to transport all that glass to and fro...