For instance, it might be that a funding round was about to happen. This is never a sure thing, so you could claim that the shares are not worth the full price (and in any case the only trade was at 2K), while privately thinking "hmm, my shares are now worth x millions".
You then sell the shares to the Roth, thinking yourself that you're putting x millions in the vehicle while reporting 2K.
Doesn't sound illegal to me, but it also doesn't sound like things are supposed to work this way.
Most people are non-accredited investors and therefore ineligible to buy them.
Startups won’t miss out on the $2000/yr from the few that are eligible.
Regulatory capture is forcing the entire economy through your cartel in the name of nominal protection.
Private share contributions give huge asymmetric upside to private investors/founders. Yes they take risk in that their shares still have to end up being worth something one day, but clearly the upside tax advantages are ridiculously unbalanced against the middle class because not everyone has access to early stage investments.
So, even the playing field by:
- Letting anyone invest in early stage companies (this has many other implications)
Or
- Only allow cash contributions to IRAs
What can be assured is that the exchange can be booked at a market value, which can never be guaranteed in a private sale in an opaque market, risking shenanigans to shift value beyond the contribution limit.
(You can say a corp’s initial shares have zero value, but we can all agree here that a Corp formed to execute on a startup team’s plan/idea absolutely does have value).
No. Theil was already making a risky startup bet, so the "reliably identify" point is moot. All this maneuver did was let him avoid all the taxes he'd owe if it paid off.
I agree with Propublica's take
Yet, from the start, a small number of entrepreneurs, like Thiel, made an end run around the rules: Open a Roth with $2,000 or less. Get a sweetheart deal to buy a stake in a startup that has a good chance of one day exploding in value. Pay just fractions of a penny per share, a price low enough to buy huge numbers of shares. Watch as all the gains on that stock — no matter how giant — are shielded from taxes forever, as long as the IRA remains untouched until age 59 and a half. Then use the proceeds, still inside the Roth, to make other investments.
I also think that there should be a cap on tax free distributions sheltered by Roths, and they should not be transferable upon death.