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Re:The Next Backblaze Storage Pod by walrus01 on Thursday June 24, 2021 @01:34PM (#27621088)
3U and 4U x86 whitebox servers designed for any standard 12"x13" motherboard, where the entire front panel was hotswap 3.5" HDD bays were already a thing many, many years before backblaze existed.

What wasn't really a thing was servers with hotswap HDD trays on both ends (like the supermicros) and things that were designed with vertical hard drives dropped down from a top-opening lid to achieve even higher density.

Re:The Next Backblaze Storage Pod by briffle on Thursday June 24, 2021 @01:42PM (#27621224)
The Sun X4500 "thumper" server had 48 drives, if I remember correctly, and came out in 2006ish.

It had hot-swap SATA disks (up to 512GB disks initially!) and was actually pretty cool and forward thinking

https://web.archive.org/web/20061128164442/http://www.sun.co...

Re:The Next Backblaze Storage Pod by dekhn on Thursday June 24, 2021 @08:12PM (#27625577)
I remember when I worked in a company that was a netapp shop, and in 2007, they sent one of the ZFS developers and andy bechtolsheim to sell us thumper and ZFS. The developer and I had a spirited discussion of the relative merits of having volume management built into the filesystem.

At the time I advised my company to skip the storage servers (which were overdesigned IMHO, but were unquestionably stout hardware) but that ZFS was an interesting filesystem to explore.

Re:The Next Backblaze Storage Pod by mattst88 on Thursday June 24, 2021 @10:47PM (#27626636)
Hah! That was the system my small university IT department bought to act as a storage server. Actually they bought 2, with one to act as a backup.

Unfortunately for them, no one knew how to administrate Solaris, so they... installed Windows. No idea if they actually succeeded in doing anything useful with the systems.

Re:The Next Backblaze Storage Pod by midasuni on Friday June 25, 2021 @02:04AM (#27627618)
Bought three with 1TB drives and ZFS. Wasn’t cheap.

Hardware was great, but no linux/zfs support meant we didn’t stick with it.

A couple of years later we had standardised on supermicros with a similar density and ran linux on them.

Sun lost a fair amount of money from us (7 figures) by choosing not to embrace linux.

Re:The Next Backblaze Storage Pod by zrail on Thursday June 24, 2021 @02:31PM (#27621945)
IIRC the company I was at at the time had a set of thumpers for something. Maybe a SAN?

They were incredibly cool for the time.

Re:The Next Backblaze Storage Pod by notyourday on Thursday June 24, 2021 @02:41PM (#27622053)
That's not the backblaze design. The backblaze design is that the drives are individually hot-swappable without a tray. 60 commodity SATA drives that can be removed and serviced individually while a 4U server continues to operate normally is pretty amazing.
Re:The Next Backblaze Storage Pod by walrus01 on Friday June 25, 2021 @12:00PM (#27632439)
that's what I said, the backblaze design is:

> things that were designed with vertical hard drives dropped down from a top-opening lid to achieve even higher density.

the backblaze storage pod system and some 3rd party derived designs have the SATA/power ports on PCBs facing upwards, mounted at bottom interior of rack chassis, and 3.5" HDDs mounted vertically down into the system.