What were his contributions, exactly? He's been an entertainer for the last decade, before that you've got to go back some ways before he contributed... And that contribution, while personally valuable to me (and others), is of arguable social value: There's no denying the early antivirus business drove the early virus business to the point of mostly being the same people.

I made money using McAfee's product for others, and so did many others. But he gave us that opportunity through selling fear, and that was not a good thing for greater society.

Creating viruses to sell anti-virus? That sounds like something McAfee would do, ironically.

I don't know- who among us has never wanted to quit working, move to a tropical paradise, and "live life to the fullest".

You kind of answered it yourself.

For one thing he is wanted in Belize for questioning on suspicion of murder of his neighbor, Gregory Faull. Then arrested in Spain over U.S. tax evasion charges.

Should I go on?

Was it? Or did he go to a conference that Epstein staged? Can you be specific -the man is dead so he won't sue.

My following argument and claim (That was flagged):

   > So Marvin Minsky got a HN black bar and it was revealed that he was part of > Epstein's.... Well you can fill in the blanks.

Is still not refuted (with strong citations / evidence), after 7 hours.

You are unable to challenge my claim, yet you present a baseless one with ZERO evidence, yet I get downvoted, flagged and silenced by those who can't refute my argument. Gave plenty of time for you to present some links.

I thought this site was for those who can present reasonable arguments with the facts involved. Seems like I am mistaken once again by the fanatics of this site. Unsurprised and very disappointed.

As for me, a very easy and well documented list of attendees in Epsteins "private jet log" which has the name and profile Minsky, Marvin: MIT professor and pioneer of artificial intelligence. documented. [0] Undeniable fact there, and he got a HN black bar, which is why I don't think anyone should have one if everyone is going to be held to such high standards. No angels are in that black book.

Now the burden of proof is on YOU to prove that it was "staged". Unless you and the attendees know something that everyone else doesn't.

How's that for "specific"?

[0] https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/jeffrey-epstein-high...

I downvoted not because of what was said but because the tone was unnecessarily rude.

The evidence here stands strong and firm over the tone, emotion or reaction I'm afraid.

The claim is either backed by reliable sources or not and claims can be simply dismissed if there is little to no evidence presented.

In this can, the grandfather comment failed to provide any and can be instantly dismissed.

It's not clear to me that "anti-virus" was a contribution.

For years the only anti-virus product that wasn't worse than the virus was Kaspersky and since things went south with Russia that's been indefensible.

Is that really a serious question? He wouldn’t be notable if not for those aspects of him that involve being “eccentric” or whatever you want to call it. A lot of software people take a dim view of anti-virus software.

Some misanthropes get inspired by his general lack of giving a fuck, but I personally do not think we should look up to the man. He did no good and possibly quite a bit of evil.

> The only field McAfee has contributed to is wherever they bury his charred remains.

That's a ... tad harsh?