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Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by fridif on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @03:52PM (#27609233)
The better questions are, did he deserve to be imprisoned and did he deserve to die?
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by dntrkv on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @03:58PM (#27609352)
> did he deserve to be imprisoned

I mean, that's kinda what happens when you don't pay your taxes and run from the government. He would've gotten a trial if he didn't commit suicide.

> did he deserve to die

No, I don't think anyone deserves to die. But, the most likely case here is he did kill himself, in which case, it's kinda on him.

Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by tiernano on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:14PM (#27609612)
> No, I don't think anyone deserves to die.

technically, everyone dies... the question should be, did he deserve to be killed, if he was (not saying he was) or did he deserve to think that was his only way out?

Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by CRConrad on Friday June 25, 2021 @10:42AM (#27631365)
> or did he deserve to think that was his only way out?

Hm, "deserve to think"... We're all totally responsible for our own thoughts, aren't we? I mean, who else could be; how could anyone else be?[1]

If McAfee had addled his brain with drugs so as to suffer paranoid-delusional fantasies; or even without drugs, if he had pondered weird conspiracy theories to the extent that he self-induced a persecution complex... Who's to blame for that but he himself; how could one claim that he didn't "deserve" it?

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[1 -- EDIT]: Besides "long-term brainwash" scenarios, that is. James Bond in a North Korean prison cell, a cowed and battered spouse / child(ren), members of an oppressive cult, shit like that. McAfee was none of those.

Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by chris11 on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:02PM (#27609418)
No, the best outcome would have been a trial with a fair outcome.

But he went down to South America, started making drugs, and got accused of rape and murder. The legal system should assume innocence before trial, though in my personal opinion he was an evil man.

Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by stickfigure on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:14PM (#27609629)
You got the continent wrong.

I don't have much of an opinion about McAfee, but it bugs me a bit when people who know less than I do have stronger opinions.

Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by okamiueru on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @06:21PM (#27611284)
> You got the continent wrong.

I'm not the person you replied to, but, do you mean they got the continent wrong because Belize is in Central America, and thus technically North America? Seems like an unnecessary nitpick.

If you thought he mistook Spain to be in South America, then, maybe the guidelines here would be of help. From my own experience, it is better to not assume people know less than you.

Then again, maybe you are referring to something else, in which case it would be nice to know what.

Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by stickfigure on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @07:05PM (#27611691)
Belize isn't just "technically" North America, and misplacing it in South America is a not a minor nit. It shows a fundamental unfamiliarity with the subject. In my experience, norteamericanos that refer to everything south of the US border as "South America" tend to lump it into a mental box of stereotypes.

I've spent a fair bit of time in Central America, and the people I met there generally took great umbrage at being referred to as "South America".

Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by okamiueru on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @07:15PM (#27611773)
I honestly fail to see what your point is, and as an argument, it does not impress me much. You went off your way to argue a minor inconsequential detail (yes, given what was discussed, it was inconsequential), and at the same time suggest they were less knowledgeable about the topic (which I might remind you, was not geographical terminology of land regions).

You'll do yourself a favor to not insult people over technical details. The arrogant attitude does not give a good impression. If you wanted to make it known you knew something they didn't, you could have achieved much more with "Belize and Central-America for that matter is considered to be part of North America, and very explicitly not part of South America". There was no need to make a point of someone knowing less, or disparaging their argument that had little to do with this.

In any case, do not mistake my interaction here as some sort of personal investment. I do not care much. Take the advice from a stranger as you will.

Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by stickfigure on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @07:58PM (#27612158)
You missed the point. Parent has very strong opinions ("evil man"), yet makes statements that expose lack of familiarity with the subject. I'm calling it out.

My desire: People with strong opinions should temper them. Or at least temper them in public. That's all.

Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by CRConrad on Friday June 25, 2021 @10:48AM (#27631468)
How exactly does what you pointed out -- "lack of familiarity with the subject" of geography -- constitute a "calling out" of their strong opinions on McAfee's character?

Total fucking non sequitur!

(Even trying it on paints you in an ever worse light. At least in my book, you'd have come out of this a lot better if you'd taken GP's advice and backed off gracefully one or two comments earlier.)

Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by okamiueru on Thursday June 24, 2021 @06:58AM (#27615969)
If your objection was to him having a too strong opinion, which would be more than welcome, you would be better served by making your argument relevant to that, and not geography trivia. It's a form of ad hominem, of which all forms are annoying.
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by beebeepka on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:09PM (#27609534)
What ecil did he do? Take drugs?
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by viro on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:14PM (#27609625)
he was wanted for murder in Belize....
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by beebeepka on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:26PM (#27609819)
I know that. Did he do it, or did he just piss the wrong US "officias". Downvote all you want. This guy clearly did not kill himself
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by viro on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:31PM (#27609912)
you know his life was basically over right? He was 75 years old . He was going to jail for at least 20 years.
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by beebeepka on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:34PM (#27609956)
That doesn't make him a murderer or suicidal.
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by viro on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:39PM (#27610014)
bruh ... who wouldn't be a lil suicidal when they find out they are going to jail for the rest of their life.
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by beebeepka on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @05:06PM (#27610372)
But you just said he was 75 years old. That's not a lot of jail time.

Some guys are suicided, others simply decide to change their gender in jail. If you don't see how this works, then I have nothing more to say to you

Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by SquishyPanda23 on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:05PM (#27609470)
> did he deserve to die?

Is there a coherent answer to this in the case of suicide?

I feel like we enter a liar's paradox since the entity who decides whether you deserve to die is yourself.

Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by fridif on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:17PM (#27609681)
Aaron Swartz?
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by vesinisa on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @03:59PM (#27609360)
You are aware that he was wanted for murder in Belize?
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by growt on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:01PM (#27609402)
But somewhat ironically that was not what he was imprisoned for.
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by zamalek on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:07PM (#27609513)
For anyone wondering: "the Spanish High Court approved of his extradition to the US on tax evasion charges." [which is why he was imprisoned]
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by jacquesm on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:17PM (#27609680)
It worked for Al Capone.
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by bingidingi on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:19PM (#27609705)
Those really aren't good questions at all.

He was imprisoned awaiting extradition for tax evasion charges, so guilt wasn't really determined yet. He did flee the US to avoid these charges and has since racked up a considerable trail of charges from foreign governments.

We'll probably never see direct evidence of his death. But suicide is plausible, given his history, I'd certainly believe he'd contemplate suicide when faced with a life in prison.

Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by babypuncher on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:13PM (#27609601)
Whether or not someone deserves to die doesn't seem like much of a question when the cause of death is intentionally self-inflicted.
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by weare138 on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:03PM (#27609425)
I don't think anyone here is arguing he deserved to die, but he definitely wasn't innocent either.
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by vbo on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @03:57PM (#27609340)
Why is this downvoted? Was he actually convicted?
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by tylersmith on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:00PM (#27609379)
He was in jail pending extradition hearings. Extradition was approved today and he was soon to be relocated to the US to stand trial.