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Re:Brave Search beta by hnlmorg on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @03:20AM (#27601738)
DDG already includes Google (amongst others) in its results. It's not just a front end to Bing, like many assume (though I can't find DDG's article on the subject to directly cite).

The thing with people who switch to DDG is, they do so consciously for privacy reasons but then forget that the reason G's results are so good is because they add little bits of context in through their profiling. But that doesn't mean that DDG's results can't be as good as G's, it just means you need to add that context yourself. Like if you search for a coding problem, add your computer language name to the search query. Or if you're search for a restaurant, add in your home town too.

I've found DDG's results to be comparable to Google's and in fact in the last ~3 years of exclusively using DDG, I can count on one hand the number of times I've tried searching for something in Google after a failed search in DDG.

Image searching is a little more hit and miss though. G's image search is better -- generally speaking. However DDG doesn't include Pinterest spam. So if you're after something specific using image searching, Google is better. But if you're after a general list of usable images, then DDG is better.

Re:Brave Search beta by Liquid_Fire on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:50AM (#27602299)
> DDG already includes Google (amongst others) in its results. It's not just a front end to Bing, like many assume (though I can't find DDG's article on the subject to directly cite).

Per DDG's own help pages, they use mostly Bing and no Google. (The mixture of over 400 sources that they claim is used to provide the infobox-type results, which they call "Instant Answers", not the regular search results)

> We also of course have more traditional links in the search results, which we also source from multiple partners, though most commonly from Bing (and none from Google).

https://help.duckduckgo.com/results/sources/

Re:Brave Search beta by paraknight on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @03:53AM (#27601949)
> but then forget that the reason G's results are so good is because they add little bits of context in through their profiling

I disagree. I've tried to switch to DDG several times too, and always go back to StartPage, which is a proxy for Google, and the results were always better even without profiling. There is a case to be made for Google having better results globally from aggregate user behaviour though.

Re:Brave Search beta by gentleman11 on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:20AM (#27602122)
I think googles crawler excels at crawling forums and social media like stack overflow or Reddit or support forums. The main thing I use google for is when I have a bug whose solution is 9 pages into some thread on some obscure discussion board I’ve never heard of
Re:Brave Search beta by bitL on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @01:56PM (#27607682)
G's results are terrible for over 5 years and now they are reaching uselessness levels of Altavista.

No G, I didn't want to search for what you suggested, really not.

Re:Brave Search beta by potatoman22 on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @02:20PM (#27608058)
> "This new-fangled technology is worse than what we had back in my day!"
Re:Brave Search beta by mackrevinack on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @03:53AM (#27601942)
DDG also makes it very to download images, unlike Google that now makes you go though to whatever site and have to scroll around in the page to find the image
Re:Brave Search beta by extropy on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:52AM (#27602315)
Google was forced to do that because sites where screaming google is stealing their traffic by linking directly to images.

Once DDG is big enough, they will be forced to do the same.

Re:Brave Search beta by losvedir on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @10:00AM (#27604650)
Or as people like to say about Uber, DDG is doing "legal arbitrage" since they're still small and Google can't do that anymore.
Re:Brave Search beta by onlyrealcuzzo on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @10:11AM (#27604762)
The best thing about Google is that if you're on a website - say a travel website looking at hotels in Thailand - and then you Google "USD" it automatically completes "USD to Thai Baht" and then just gives you the answer very user friendly automatically. The same is true if you'd search "Best p" - you get "Best places to visit in Thailand" immediately, with a bunch of cards that are easy to read and use and get to more relevant things you're looking for.

Sure - this invades your privacy. But it leads to good results and a better experience.

You really don't want to give up your privacy in exchange for nothing. But this doesn't feel like the case here.

It's also just as good for location things. If I'm in different neighborhoods - I can type one letter in - and Google will pop up the right restaurant - and then in one or two clicks I can make an order.

This feels like a trade I can live with. I get it that a lot of people can't.

Re:Brave Search beta by marshray on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @02:45PM (#27608398)
You're happy to give up your privacy just to save typing a few characters?
Re:Brave Search beta by onlyrealcuzzo on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:39PM (#27610021)
Considering that I use Google instead of DDG primarily because of how good the contextually aware results are for the things I most commonly search - sure.
Re:Brave Search beta by nagarjun on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:48AM (#27602292)
> Or if you're search for a restaurant, add in your home town too.

This definitely doesn't help in India. If you live in the US, Brave/DDG can probably serve you better local results. It's abysmal in India. Google local results in India are orders of magnitude better here.

Re:Brave Search beta by hnlmorg on Thursday June 24, 2021 @03:17AM (#27614784)
I live in Europe so I'm definitely not talking from a US perspective. But I acknowledge that web services are generally worse in India than most (other) developed countries.
Re:Brave Search beta by abanayev on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @09:21AM (#27604233)
This exhibits the halting problem, no?

I tried to use DDG, but now I don’t because I never knew whether it was just my DDG search that had been unsuccessful or whether there were truly no results.

In fact, I wouldn’t know with any search engine whether there are “truly no results”, so I use G because I prefer to get what’s widely accepted to be the closest results possible.