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Re:Hundreds of vaccinated Indonesian health workers get Covi... by senectus1 on Sunday June 20, 2021 @09:34PM (#27575459)
its an almost useless vaccine from a few recent reports. Costa Rica has decided to dump it completely its been so bad. I would expect more to follow from what I've seen on Reuters etc.

I wonder how many deals the Chinese got for pushing this useless vaccine via diplomacy.

Re:Hundreds of vaccinated Indonesian health workers get Covi... by selcuka on Sunday June 20, 2021 @09:51PM (#27575527)
It's a stretch to call it almost useless. It is certainly effective in reducing the number of intensive care admissions and deaths. The problem is mutations keep popping up before we can obtain herd immunity. The vaccines needs to be continuously updated.
Re:Hundreds of vaccinated Indonesian health workers get Covi... by senectus1 on Monday June 21, 2021 @12:36AM (#27576350)
I wish I could find the article I was reading a few days ago. It said something like: zero antibodies found in vaccinated until 2nd jab, then the effectiveness of the 2nd jab seems to struggle to bring it up to 50%.

I would call that nearly useless. If they are ignoring these poor statistics and just rolling back to pre-covid rules I'd say its worse than nearly useless.

Re:Hundreds of vaccinated Indonesian health workers get Covi... by selcuka on Tuesday June 22, 2021 @12:32AM (#27588013)
50% is much, much better than 0%. Also there is a reason some vaccines need to be administered as 2 doses. It is irrelevant to mention the antibodies after the first dose.