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Re:Ask HN: What huge mistake did you make early in your career? by pedrosorio on Saturday June 19, 2021 @11:57PM (#27566953)
> “You’re going to give me a year and then be gone. Why should I hire you?”. Never had a good answer when I was in my 30s. Now that I’m in my 40s, I have a pretty good one.

What's the answer?

Re:Ask HN: What huge mistake did you make early in your career? by quanticle on Sunday June 20, 2021 @02:49AM (#27567764)
As someone who has a number of short stints on his resume, I usually go with, "There's a big difference between ten years of experience, and one year of experience repeated ten times. I have experience with a wide variety of frameworks and architectures. I've done real work in both front-end and back-end codebases. I've worked in Windows environments and Linux environments. I've even done some DBA work. I can bring knowledge of a wide variety of best practices to bear on any problem that I'll encounter at this current role."

The other thing I've found is that the companies that make a really big deal about "job hopping" and "employee loyalty" aren't really ones that you want to work for anyway. They're paranoid about employee loyalty for a reason, and rather than look at their own management to see why employees are leaving after short stints at that firm, they blame the employees, usually with some absurd generalizations about "millenials" or "gen z".

Re:Ask HN: What huge mistake did you make early in your career? by quietbritishjim on Sunday June 20, 2021 @08:15AM (#27569297)
That doesn't answer the question at all. You were asked "how do I know you won't leave in a short time frame?" and you answered the completely different question "what benefit (to you) have you got from having lots of jobs?". If anything, it suggests you view leaving companies after a short time as a positive thing you'd want to do again.

By the way, I don't agree that if a company would like employees that tend to stick around then that indicates some sort if weird cult-like behaviour. It's more like a recognition that productivity naturally is lower in the months after someone joins than after they've been there for a year or two. Choosing people that are able to stick at a job for a few years is just a sensible business decision. Admittedly it does have social benefits too i.e. there's a better work environment for everyone if you get to know other people over a period of time (in spite of some HN commenters' views that we're all robots that shouldn't care about interactions with coworkers). But, in my view, even that is reasonable justification.

Re:Ask HN: What huge mistake did you make early in your career? by extraAccount on Monday June 21, 2021 @03:34AM (#27577098)
Keep in mind that the answer was not written by the OP of that comment.
Re:Ask HN: What huge mistake did you make early in your career? by archiepeach on Sunday June 20, 2021 @05:21AM (#27568441)
You can also mention how companies encourage disloyalty by paying new starters significantly more than existing employees. I’ve seen great people working hard towards a promotion, putting in the hours, playing everything right - only to be passed over for a promotion due to management politics and a boss that was looking out more for herself than her team. Meanwhile, another employee simply just left and walked into another job with a £25k pay increase. As long as companies continue to be myopic with regards to salaries, it incentivises people to jump ship every couple of years.
Re:Ask HN: What huge mistake did you make early in your career? by ownagefool on Sunday June 20, 2021 @05:53AM (#27568596)
Probably better off responding more along the lines of:

I bring a wide array of industry experience, that you'll benefit from. I'm hoping for a longer term engagement, but even if it's a shorter one, I typically leave them better than I found them.

In your own words, ofcourse.

P.S. I suspect your statement will get you rejected from companies that know they have the same problem but can't fix it. If you don't need a job, be as honest as you want, if you do, you're better off going with the positive spin.

Re:Ask HN: What huge mistake did you make early in your career? by b3morales on Sunday June 20, 2021 @02:53PM (#27572886)
Yup, this. We took temporary pay cuts last year, which was more or less understandable, business was down. But I did a couple of interview rounds and got offers that were 15-20% above my pre-cut salary. And people were shocked that I was leaving.
Re:Ask HN: What huge mistake did you make early in your career? by andi999 on Sunday June 20, 2021 @06:07AM (#27568650)
To be fair: the company might not have a need for the skill level which allows for a drastic pay increase.
Re:Ask HN: What huge mistake did you make early in your career? by justrudd on Sunday June 20, 2021 @01:51AM (#27567491)
Usually say it with more tact, but it is along the lines of - “Yes. I’m a professional new guy. I’ve seen and worked on a lot of different types of technology, and I come up to speed quickly. I’m not afraid to ask ‘dumb’ questions when I can’t find what I’m looking for.”

Something along those lines. I lean into it. But as I said, it doesn’t come up too often in the PNW.

Re:Ask HN: What huge mistake did you make early in your career? by Aeolun on Sunday June 20, 2021 @03:21AM (#27567902)
I mean, that’s cool, but you haven’t actually adressed the problem, which is that I’ll spend 3 months training you, only to have you quit after 9 more. That’s not really a good investment
Re:Ask HN: What huge mistake did you make early in your career? by toyg on Sunday June 20, 2021 @04:42AM (#27568272)
His point is that it will only take a month to get him up to speed, not 3.

But I agree that a better answer would probably be something along the lines of "I have so much experience that I deliver in a year what the average guy would give you in 5; and if you're good to me, I might well stick around as much as I did at X", or something along those lines.

Re:Ask HN: What huge mistake did you make early in your career? by xboxnolifes on Sunday June 20, 2021 @10:11PM (#27575615)
If he's getting hired, it's obviously good enough.
Re:Ask HN: What huge mistake did you make early in your career? by Aeolun on Monday June 21, 2021 @01:20AM (#27576535)
Depends on how often they’re hired versus not.
Re:Ask HN: What huge mistake did you make early in your career? by DenisM on Sunday June 20, 2021 @02:26AM (#27567654)
How about “I leave subpar companies quickly and stay in great companies like Amazon for many years”?
Re:Ask HN: What huge mistake did you make early in your career? by 8note on Sunday June 20, 2021 @02:33AM (#27567697)
"You're gonna have a good year"