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Re:Life as a public school teacher in the San Francisco Bay ... by giantg2 on Saturday June 19, 2021 @09:27PM (#27566199)
I'm saying that if you pay teachers a salary consistent with an MIT grad that was able to FIRE, that you will attract people solely for the money. If we are compensating teachers at 4-5x the median salary, then I would gladly quit my job and become a teacher even though I have no real interest in it. I believe that the best teachers enjoy their jobs and are not just looking for the money.

Now we could use a performance based pay system that could pay teachers more. Some of those systems fail to capture the right metrics. All of them are opposed by the teachers union. I think a slightly below average salary (factoring in benefits which are not typically seen in industry) with the potential to make more than average based on performance would be a good system.

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Re:Life as a public school teacher in the San Francisco Bay ... by cycomanic on Sunday June 20, 2021 @03:28AM (#27567933)
So why should people not go into teaching for the money. Are you saying you are not good at your job because you are motivated by money? That's a weird take, or does that only apply to teachers not other jobs? If so why?
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Re:Life as a public school teacher in the San Francisco Bay ... by burntoutfire on Sunday June 20, 2021 @05:24AM (#27568456)
Teaching is both hard AND hard to evaluate, at the same time. This means that money-motivated people will likely do a bad job there AND will be able to hide their poor performance for years, for the sake of accumulating money.
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Re:Life as a public school teacher in the San Francisco Bay ... by giantg2 on Sunday June 20, 2021 @10:12AM (#27570168)
The main difference here is that the teachers are unionized. Their contracts generally make it extremely difficult to remove underperforming teachers or pay for results.

Higher pay under a pay for performance structure and the ability to remove ineffective teachers would be good. This would bring it more in line with industry. It can be tricky to get the right metrics. The bigger issue is that the teachers union opposes any of them.

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