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Re:U.S. senators propose 25% tax credit for semiconductor ma... by jiofih on Saturday June 19, 2021 @05:09PM (#27564490)
For reference, 50000lbs is 22 tons. Tesla is now using 6000 and 8000 ton casting machines to build the Model Y and Cybertruck chassis. And they come from Europe again!
Re:U.S. senators propose 25% tax credit for semiconductor ma... by mcabbott on Saturday June 19, 2021 @06:50PM (#27565242)
The big Alcoa press is 50_000 tons, not lbs. There are slightly larger ones now, 60, 75ktons. (22 tons is, of course, force that any rail yard could produce a century ago.)
Re:U.S. senators propose 25% tax credit for semiconductor ma... by cartoonworld on Saturday June 19, 2021 @09:08PM (#27566080)
Indeed I made a couple of typos.

But this is a great opportunity to observe some of the engineering challenges with these advanced manufacturing techniques.

Tesla Model S and X were constructed with alloy control arms (Tesla calls them 'fore links') which sometimes did not meet specifications, resulting in catastrophic failures[0] termed "Wompy Wheel" in the press.

I don't know if they are extruded or forged, I think they are extrusions but I haven't had a really close look. One thing that I've noticed about the failures is that the control arms have what appear to me to be unusually large rubber bushings. I don't know what conclusions can be drawn from that observation, but there it is. I would speculate that the largeish bushings provide improved ride quality. On another note, Tesla wheels were kind of weirdly large, with uncommon tire specs.

I've had the opportunity to examine some more resent Tesla suspension components and they appear quite resilient. However, YMMV, I am not an X-Ray.

[0] https://www.motorbiscuit.com/this-is-bad-whompy-wheel-syndro...

Re:U.S. senators propose 25% tax credit for semiconductor ma... by durge on Saturday June 19, 2021 @06:58PM (#27565296)
I think that is a mistyping - the Alcoa presses are 50,000 tons, not lbs.