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Re:In 1850, Ignaz Semmelweis saved lives with three words: w... by tdrgabi on Saturday June 19, 2021 @02:38AM (#27558325)
I don't know if it's ok to link to reddit from here, but here's a good explanation why Semmelweis ideas were not accepted from the beginning: https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/2bnsjx/ignaz_se...

tldr: it was a very radical idea and he was a difficult, unliked man. I read that as "kind of a jerk", but that's my interpretation. We might react the same way if the person you dislike for being a smartass comes with an idea that there are invisible tiny things killing people.

I think there's a lesson here, it's not enough to be right. You need to sell your ideas well. Especially if you're selling to a group that already dislike you due to previous interactions.

Re:In 1850, Ignaz Semmelweis saved lives with three words: w... by carlmr on Saturday June 19, 2021 @02:44AM (#27558354)
>You need to sell your ideas well. Especially if you're selling to a group that already dislike you due to previous interactions.

Alternatively, be nice to people, making it easier for them to like your ideas.

Re:In 1850, Ignaz Semmelweis saved lives with three words: w... by dsego on Saturday June 19, 2021 @05:02AM (#27558997)
This is like the first few chapters of "How to Win Friends & Influence People". Mostly never criticize people, it just makes them want to save face.
Re:In 1850, Ignaz Semmelweis saved lives with three words: w... by carlmr on Saturday June 19, 2021 @05:27AM (#27559104)
I think it says to criticize in private and laud in public. We are all emotional beings, so I think it's good advice.
Re:In 1850, Ignaz Semmelweis saved lives with three words: w... by dsego on Saturday June 19, 2021 @06:46AM (#27559439)
Not just emotional. My biggest takeaway is that everyone wants to feel important, that they matter. And it's true whether you are a president or a petty criminal. It's a very strong emotion.
Re:In 1850, Ignaz Semmelweis saved lives with three words: w... by I_complete_me on Saturday June 19, 2021 @03:46AM (#27558630)
It seems logical to me that good ideas could be available to intolerable people.
Re:In 1850, Ignaz Semmelweis saved lives with three words: w... by bjourne on Saturday June 19, 2021 @07:10AM (#27559552)
> tldr: it was a very radical idea and he was a difficult, unliked man. I read that as "kind of a jerk", but that's my interpretation. We might react the same way if the person you dislike for being a smartass comes with an idea that there are invisible tiny things killing people.

Semmelweiss didn't know what it was that killed people. He had some results that suggested a correlation between hand washing and mothers surviving. But he couldn't explain what the mechanism was. It was quite easy for the scientific establishment to dismiss his results as a peculiarity of the ward he was working on.