Re:In 1850, Ignaz Semmelweis saved lives with three words: w...
by carlmr on Saturday June 19, 2021 @02:44AM
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>You need to sell your ideas well. Especially if you're selling to a group that already dislike you due to previous interactions.
Alternatively, be nice to people, making it easier for them to like your ideas.
Re:In 1850, Ignaz Semmelweis saved lives with three words: w...
by dsego on Saturday June 19, 2021 @05:02AM
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This is like the first few chapters of "How to Win Friends & Influence People". Mostly never criticize people, it just makes them want to save face.
Re:In 1850, Ignaz Semmelweis saved lives with three words: w...
by carlmr on Saturday June 19, 2021 @05:27AM
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I think it says to criticize in private and laud in public. We are all emotional beings, so I think it's good advice.
Re:In 1850, Ignaz Semmelweis saved lives with three words: w...
by dsego on Saturday June 19, 2021 @06:46AM
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Not just emotional. My biggest takeaway is that everyone wants to feel important, that they matter. And it's true whether you are a president or a petty criminal. It's a very strong emotion.
Re:In 1850, Ignaz Semmelweis saved lives with three words: w...
by I_complete_me on Saturday June 19, 2021 @03:46AM
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It seems logical to me that good ideas could be available to intolerable people.
Re:In 1850, Ignaz Semmelweis saved lives with three words: w...
by bjourne on Saturday June 19, 2021 @07:10AM
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> tldr: it was a very radical idea and he was a difficult, unliked man. I read that as "kind of a jerk", but that's my interpretation. We might react the same way if the person you dislike for being a smartass comes with an idea that there are invisible tiny things killing people.
Semmelweiss didn't know what it was that killed people. He had some results that suggested a correlation between hand washing and mothers surviving. But he couldn't explain what the mechanism was. It was quite easy for the scientific establishment to dismiss his results as a peculiarity of the ward he was working on.
tldr: it was a very radical idea and he was a difficult, unliked man. I read that as "kind of a jerk", but that's my interpretation. We might react the same way if the person you dislike for being a smartass comes with an idea that there are invisible tiny things killing people.
I think there's a lesson here, it's not enough to be right. You need to sell your ideas well. Especially if you're selling to a group that already dislike you due to previous interactions.