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Re:After 50 years of the war on drugs, 'what good is it doin... by lettergram on Thursday June 17, 2021 @02:46PM (#27543038)
If you look at violent crime over the last 50 years it has steadily decreased. I think it’s reasonable to see a correlation.

It’s possible decriminalizing could lead to a huge wave in crimes as people try to pay for their fix.

That being said, I’m pro-liberty. I feel all drugs should be accessible

Re:After 50 years of the war on drugs, 'what good is it doin... by tetranomiga on Thursday June 17, 2021 @02:59PM (#27543197)
> I think it’s reasonable to see a correlation.

That's not reasonable at all. Forensic science and surveillance technology has made gigantic bounds in the past 50 years, as has almost every other aspect of crime fighting. We've busted mafias, dispersed organized crime syndicates (you know, the REAL bad guys) and made education more widespread than ever. It's gotten a lot harder to do serious IRL crime undetected (cyber crime is a whole other story). Giving a bunch of young latinos and african americans horrible mandatory minimums in lieu of addiction treatment has very arguably contributed to slowing down the decrease in violent crimes.

Re:After 50 years of the war on drugs, 'what good is it doin... by asdff on Thursday June 17, 2021 @03:01PM (#27543214)
Crime rates correlate pretty damn well to leaded gasoline usage and legalized abortion, too.
Re:After 50 years of the war on drugs, 'what good is it doin... by pmoriarty on Thursday June 17, 2021 @04:13PM (#27544052)
"It’s possible decriminalizing could lead to a huge wave in crimes as people try to pay for their fix."

The only reason that drugs cost enormous amounts of money is that they're illegal.

Once they're legal they could be produced for virtually nothing, and no one would have to turn to crime to afford them.

In an enlightened-enough state, the government could even subsidize drugs for those that couldn't afford them. For therapeutic drugs like psilocybin and MDMA it's probably going to happen before long, though I'm not holding my breath for it happening in the US for cocaine or heroin within my lifetime. But they still don't have to be expensive, once they're legal.

Re:After 50 years of the war on drugs, 'what good is it doin... by tastyfreeze on Thursday June 17, 2021 @03:31PM (#27543605)
A correlation with war on drugs is possible but the correlation with lead exposure is much stronger.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead%E2%80%93crime_hypothesis#....

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5703470/

Re:After 50 years of the war on drugs, 'what good is it doin... by genericone on Thursday June 17, 2021 @02:58PM (#27543186)
Just wondering, whats your take on the Opium Wars between Britain and China?
Re:After 50 years of the war on drugs, 'what good is it doin... by cwkoss on Thursday June 17, 2021 @03:46PM (#27543789)
Do you think drug usage rates have steadily decreased over the last 50 years?
Re:After 50 years of the war on drugs, 'what good is it doin... by 3pt14159 on Thursday June 17, 2021 @02:57PM (#27543166)
All drugs?

Carfentanil which has a lethal dose that's so small it's hard to notice or see?

I understand legalizing somethings we don't necessarily even like to put up with, but if something is as lethal as a gun I'm pretty comfortable infringing a bit on some freedoms.

Re:After 50 years of the war on drugs, 'what good is it doin... by vidarh on Thursday June 17, 2021 @03:26PM (#27543519)
A few drugs that are essentially largely used as alternatives to safer drugs could possibly reasonably remain illegal.

The question to me books down to what addicts do if the drug remains illegal. Getting all drug users over onto a legal supply matters. Doesn't need to be easy - prescriptions etc. for the worst ones would be reasonable.

But getting them onto a legal, regulated supply from providers that can nudge them towards treatment or safer alternatives is even more important for the highest risk drugs.