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Re:Stay Away from Cloudflare (2017) by warrenm on Thursday June 17, 2021 @01:26PM (#27542094)
He missed what happened to me and took weeks to resolve - [attempted] DNS theft by a malicious third party
Re:Stay Away from Cloudflare (2017) by StavrosK on Thursday June 17, 2021 @01:30PM (#27542125)
How did that happen and why did it take weeks to resolve?
Re:Stay Away from Cloudflare (2017) by warrenm on Thursday June 17, 2021 @01:51PM (#27542361)
Someone created a bogus account using my email trying to claim DNS administrative rights for all domains associated with that email (yeah, yeah, yeah - I should have had domain privacy for everything ... but some didn't)

Cloudflare ended up getting listed as authoritative DNS in its own DNS resolver (even though the registrar's records were supposed to be authoritative)

The only reason they couldn't fully steal DNS settings was I had 2FA enabled with my registrars and on my email account

Took nearly 3 days to claim the malicious Cloudflare account via password resets to my actual email address and enable 2FA on it to my authentication tools

Took another week+ to delete all attempted DNS registries and get Cloudflare to not recognize themselves as authoritative DNS resolution for the domains

And over a month for tech "support" and "legal" to finally get around to responding to my complaints basically saying, "you should have created an account with us with that email so no one else could try to steal it"

Re:Stay Away from Cloudflare (2017) by remram on Thursday June 17, 2021 @02:01PM (#27542487)
> The only reason they couldn't fully steal DNS settings was I had 2FA enabled with my registrars and on my email account

This sounds like they had your password?

Re:Stay Away from Cloudflare (2017) by crummybowley on Thursday June 17, 2021 @03:29PM (#27543581)
Also seems like CF jumped the gun on letting their servers serve content to their own servers -- seems like CF fucked up too.

Like, when you are CF big you can't just start resolving domains however you feel because folks use your DNS service.

Re:Stay Away from Cloudflare (2017) by remram on Thursday June 17, 2021 @04:42PM (#27544338)
If their 8.8.8.8 resolver was returning results from customer accounts that weren't verified, like the GP seems to imply, that seems like a huge security problem.
Re:Stay Away from Cloudflare (2017) by warrenm on Friday June 18, 2021 @10:19AM (#27550585)
1.1.1.1 ... 8.8.8.8 is google :)
Re:Stay Away from Cloudflare (2017) by warrenm on Friday June 18, 2021 @10:19AM (#27550583)
but ... but ... but!

free markets!

/s

Re:Stay Away from Cloudflare (2017) by crummybowley on Tuesday June 29, 2021 @02:59PM (#27680224)
This is not a free market issue. Free market does not mean companies can do what they want.
Re:Stay Away from Cloudflare (2017) by warrenm on Thursday July 08, 2021 @04:17PM (#27777089)
Hence the "/s" :)
Re:Stay Away from Cloudflare (2017) by warrenm on Friday June 18, 2021 @07:44AM (#27549379)
Nope - they didn't change anything with the registrars

But Cloudflare still let them start making DNS entries

Re:Stay Away from Cloudflare (2017) by StavrosK on Thursday June 17, 2021 @05:14PM (#27544572)
Wow, that's a lot of bad. How did they manage to create an account with your email address? Doesn't it require verification?
Re:Stay Away from Cloudflare (2017) by warrenm on Friday June 18, 2021 @07:46AM (#27549387)
You'd think, right?

Cloudflare (at least at the time) would let you create an account and start doing stuff without verifying you actually owned the email address

Fat-finger? bob[at]bob[dot]com to bon[dot]com? No worries

Enter my email instead of yours? Go for it

It's just a login...right?

Re:Stay Away from Cloudflare (2017) by k__ on Thursday June 17, 2021 @01:41PM (#27542264)
How can this happen and how to prevent it?
Re:Stay Away from Cloudflare (2017) by warrenm on Thursday June 17, 2021 @01:51PM (#27542364)