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Re:Survey shows people no longer believe working hard will l... by oblio on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @11:53AM (#27517275)
Which you can side step by doing your own plumbing, helping friends out with that while talking to people, watching videos online, etc.

Good luck apprenticing as a doctor without 6 years of medical school. Or as an architect without architecture school.

Let's not overdo the "blue collar jobs are hard to get".

Re:Survey shows people no longer believe working hard will l... by PaulDavisThe1st on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @12:00PM (#27517374)
I do my own plumbing. I'm quite good at it. I occasionally fix issues for friends.

I am about as far from being a professional plumber as the plumber who tinkers with python is from doing what I do.

Re:Survey shows people no longer believe working hard will l... by clipradiowallet on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @12:22PM (#27517665)
The professionals have the same attitude about their trade as we do about (from your post) python. EG... no matter what required work is, I'm 99.9999% confident I can have it working in very little time. It's all that experience/confidence in the field that let's a good engineer give the warm-and-fuzzy feeling to a client. The client _knows_ you are going to knock it out of the park, because that's your level of familiarity and the confidence you project.

A professional tradesmen _knows_ he can show up to your home/business and fix your problem(s) with 99.999% certainty.

Re:Survey shows people no longer believe working hard will l... by imtringued on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @04:31PM (#27521105)
>no matter what required work is, I'm 99.9999% confident I can have it working in very little time.

If it is your first time it is going to take much, much longer. If the only way to learn is on the job then you must have an experienced plumber by your side, otherwise you're going to bill 4 hours for a 1 hour job because you are not fast enough. Your first year is going to suck or you only ever do the same few skills you have learned by taking a risk. A botched job may have a much higher impact than a bug in a CRUD app (there are always exceptions).

Re:Survey shows people no longer believe working hard will l... by caf on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @08:31PM (#27523443)
I'm 99.9999% confident...

That's a lot of nines.

It means if you were doing 5 of these tasks a day, for 250 working days a year, you'd expect only a 50% chance of finding a task too curly to do easily in the first 550 years of your working life.

I feel like there's very few people, in any field, who've earned that level of confidence.