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Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by obstacle1 on Monday June 14, 2021 @10:13AM (#27502736)
> trust fund crowd

You're on a discussion board filled with software developers and tech employees generally. The vast majority of such workers make a lot of money. If you're working in tech and you can't bank enough to take 6m-1yr off, you're doing your finances wrong. It doesn't require a trust fund to avoid the hedonic treadmill and save up.

Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by ls612 on Monday June 14, 2021 @10:42AM (#27503140)
Heck, I’m a poor grad student who gets a stipend from my program and is lucky enough to have parents willing and able to pay my rent. My total income including that family support is probably around $40k and I saved a ton of money this past year since I couldn’t do anything. I can only imagine how much someone in my situation with a FAANG income would have saved.
Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by baseballdork on Monday June 14, 2021 @11:53AM (#27504113)
Obviously if your parents are paying your largest expense, you can save a ton of money. I would assume most people aren't that fortunate.
Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by ls612 on Monday June 14, 2021 @12:06PM (#27504298)
My point is even with that money my income isn’t that high compared to software engineers.
Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by baseballdork on Monday June 14, 2021 @12:20PM (#27504496)
Understood, but your expenses as a student are also unlikely to be very high, especially if your parents are covering rent/medical/etc, especially if you're comparing to SWEs in SV.
Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by SketchySeaBeast on Monday June 14, 2021 @12:10PM (#27504352)
If you were suddenly responsible for your room and board how long could you coast without a job or other support?
Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by ls612 on Monday June 14, 2021 @12:14PM (#27504405)
As long as my grad school stipend keeps going. I just wouldn't be able to save anymore.
Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by rchaud on Monday June 14, 2021 @11:21AM (#27503651)
> If you're working in tech and you can't bank enough to take 6m-1yr off, you're doing your finances wrong.

Why would you assume to know what other people's financial situations are, let alone their wage scale in an industry where not everyone is a US-based SWE?

Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by ryandrake on Monday June 14, 2021 @11:45AM (#27503994)
Not to mention, even if you can save this much, put it in your 401(k), not a vacation savings account. The financial impact of taking a whole year without pay in your 20s probably adds 5 years to your retirement date, due to compounding interest and investment growth. Is it really worth it, just so you can fill your Insta with pictures of you windsurfing in Ibiza?
Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by sbarre on Monday June 14, 2021 @01:10PM (#27505176)
Counter-point: Enjoy your youth while you're young.

There's a balance to find between saving for retirement and not spending your entire adulthood just working towards it.

You may not be able to windsurf anywhere in your 50s...

Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by VRay on Monday June 14, 2021 @11:59AM (#27504196)
If you're writing so much software you hang out on HackerNews for fun, and you're not saving enough to max out your 401k AND have savings left over for 6 months off, you're doing your finances wrong (and/or you can get a 4x pay bump in a new job)
Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by ryandrake on Monday June 14, 2021 @02:18PM (#27506152)
Most people here, even most software engineers, don’t make the sky high salaries that “very high-level FAANG engineers who also live in the Bay Area” make. Many have families, kids, education expenses, parents they support, expensive health issues, etc. It’s a huge assumption to think that everyone on HN can max out a 401(k) at all, let alone have any left over to save and blow on extended unpaid vacations.

EDIT: Obviously (from the voting) I hit a raw nerve with that original comment. Who knew “save for retirement” was such controversial advice. I personally plan to ensure I do not have to eat dog food when I’m 80 because I partied in my 20s but I guess to each their own. Given the average American’s retirement savings rate, my plan is clearly unpopular!

Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by VRay on Monday June 14, 2021 @03:45PM (#27507330)
So you're saying that you're single-handedly pulling in between 2x and 5x the median household US income, yet can't set aside $20k a year for your 401k?

That means you're either not living on a budget at all, or you're doing something ridiculous like paying out of pocket for prescription medication without using the ACA.

Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by reducesuffering on Monday June 14, 2021 @01:38PM (#27505527)
Oh I hang out on Hacker News for fun but it comes at the expense of not "writing so much software" ;)
Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by nanidin on Monday June 14, 2021 @12:31PM (#27504655)
Why wait until one is old to have fun? Why assume one will even live to enjoy retirement? Can one even pick up windsurfing at a typical retirement age?

I took off 3 years in my 20’s. 34 now, and back on track to retire in my early 40’s. Saving for retirement and enjoying life today are not mutually exclusive.

Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by psychomugs on Monday June 14, 2021 @04:36PM (#27507965)
This sums up my (admittedly naive) view towards retirement. Why would I sacrifice so much of my youth for a future so far down the road that I will 1) most definitely be in worse shape for, and 2) may not even reach? I think the wringer of grad school is enough of an investment in my future.
Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by compiler-guy on Monday June 14, 2021 @12:56PM (#27504991)
"Is it really worth it, just so you can fill your Insta with pictures of you windsurfing in Ibiza?"

Do you really think all these folks want to do is fill their Instagram with pictures of windsurfing in Ibiza?

That misses the entire point of travel. It isn't to show off on instagram (although that can be a fun component, it isn't the driver for 99% of people); it isn't to tell other people you did it.

It is to have this amazing experience with a foreign culture and place. And that is very hard to value.

Yes, planning for retirement is important. But you may also be dead before you get there. It takes balance.

Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by mateo411 on Monday June 14, 2021 @01:09PM (#27505155)
It depends on the person. I think I'd rather go windsurfing in my 20s then try to do it in my 60s when my health is not as good. I probably won't remember posting it on Instagram, but I will remember going wind surfing.
Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by madengr on Monday June 14, 2021 @07:13PM (#27509553)
I agree. I had two weeks off between grad school and my current job. I’ve been maxing out my 401k for 25 years and have zero debt (mortgage paid off 2 years ago). Could actually retire now at 49.
Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by BurningFrog on Monday June 14, 2021 @10:42AM (#27503131)
Yeah, I easily make twice as much as I spend.

So I take a year of now and then, if I feel like it.

Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by ericd on Monday June 14, 2021 @11:46AM (#27504004)
Do you ever find this makes finding a new job on return difficult?
Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by wsc981 on Monday June 14, 2021 @12:00PM (#27504212)
> Do you ever find this makes finding a new job on return difficult?

I am not the same person you asked the question to, but I guess if you work on a couple of hobby projects and actually release those in your break year, you won't have holes in your CV.

Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by ericd on Monday June 14, 2021 @03:55PM (#27507462)
Good point. I guess it depends on what kind of break you want...
Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by BurningFrog on Monday June 14, 2021 @01:56PM (#27505840)
Job searching with "stranger" companies becomes harder.

But if you leave enough coworkers who want to work with you again at each job, you can always find jobs through them.

Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by ericd on Monday June 14, 2021 @03:54PM (#27507451)
Yep, makes sense :-)
Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by anoncake on Monday June 14, 2021 @12:34PM (#27504682)
If you make twice as much as you need without being extremely frugal, you likely have the skills to compensate that.
Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by hpoe on Monday June 14, 2021 @10:45AM (#27503165)
Sure if you don't have a family to provide for. It turns out that it becomes a lot harder to take a gap year when you've still got a spouse and little people depending on you.
Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by obstacle1 on Monday June 14, 2021 @10:51AM (#27503276)
I don't see this as much different from "sure, if you don't have a million dollar mortgage and 2 car payments to cover!"

Having a family is partially a financial decision. People should make the decision with eyes wide open, having planned for it. Achieving a financial position above sustenance before having the expensive family is generally a good idea. Same as buying the house and cars.

Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by toto444 on Monday June 14, 2021 @11:49AM (#27504046)
You are thinking from the point of view of someone with no mortgage, no family and you can choose what to do with your spare income. Some of us have a family or a house and that means they have renounced traveling.

You can have a family, a house be sustainable but not earning enough to be able to pay for a year off of work. Which is the lot of 99.99% of people on this planet.

Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by mateo411 on Monday June 14, 2021 @01:14PM (#27505223)
You can travel with your family too. You won't be able to quit your job, go backpacking, and stay in youth hostels.

But, you can go on road trips, go camping, you can take a cruise, or find an all inclusive resorts. You won't have as much time for yourself like you did in your youth, but you can still travel and you'll make memories with your family, and show them new things about the world.

Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by obstacle1 on Monday June 14, 2021 @12:09PM (#27504348)
> You can have a family, a house be sustainable but not earning enough to be able to pay for a year off of work.

I think we have different definitions of "sustainable", then.

What you're describing sounds one step up from living paycheck to paycheck. And the fact that "most people are in that position!" doesn't make it a good position to be in, or a necessary one.

Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by refenestrator on Monday June 14, 2021 @11:45AM (#27503987)
Having a family is the bedrock of society. If only the top 10% of earners had one, we'd find ourselves in some trouble.
Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by apercu on Monday June 14, 2021 @10:40AM (#27503100)
Yes and no. Depends on your seniority and where you live to some degree. I was pretty burnt out at 28 after a year that included things like a 110 hour work week. At the time I couldn't afford 6 months or a year off.

I did take a year off 2 years later.

Re:“Great resignation” wave coming for companies by toto444 on Monday June 14, 2021 @10:37AM (#27503061)
That's not true everywhere.