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Re:Tricks of Trench Warfare (2020) by tigerlily on Monday June 14, 2021 @04:05AM (#27500399)
Māori invented trench warfare in the 1800s. Their fortifications were surrounded by palisades, and they dug trenches beneath, shooting hapless British soldiers from the gaps between the ground and the bottom of the wall.
Re:Tricks of Trench Warfare (2020) by hutzlibu on Monday June 14, 2021 @08:21AM (#27501720)
Fortifications and trenches are waaay older. I think the romans were the first to master it.

But I am not sure, if what you describe qualifies as trench warfare.

Re:Tricks of Trench Warfare (2020) by w0de0 on Monday June 14, 2021 @01:28PM (#27505381)
A pivotal moment in the Koran is known as "The Battle of the Trench."
Re:Tricks of Trench Warfare (2020) by jasonwatkinspdx on Monday June 14, 2021 @02:49PM (#27506611)
The Romans were something else. I was reading about the period around the Illyrian uprising recently, and learned that at that time, standard practice for a legion was to build a massive fort, trenches and all, every night they camped.

It's pretty incredible (and often terrible) what humans with hand tools can do when sufficiently organized and motivated.

The basic concept of a trench with something like a wooden barrier proximate goes back to neolithic times. Interestingly most of these sites we've found seem to not be fortifications but rather something ceremonial. It's ambiguous.

Re:Tricks of Trench Warfare (2020) by svieira on Monday June 14, 2021 @02:58PM (#27506706)
Fra Giocondo (among others) would like a word with you:

> The second siege was that of Padua in 1509. A monk engineer named Fra Giocondo, trusted with the defence of the Venetian city, cut down the city's medieval wall and surrounded the city with a broad ditch that could be swept by flanking fire from gun ports set low in projections extending into the ditch. Finding that their cannon fire made little impression on these low ramparts, the French and allied besiegers made several bloody and fruitless assaults and then withdrew.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastion_fort#Effectiveness

Re:Tricks of Trench Warfare (2020) by kingsuper20 on Monday June 14, 2021 @09:11AM (#27502085)
I expect that trench warfare is a natural side effect of enclosure trench systems used when taking a fortress. Obviously field fortifications are older than that, but I mean the variety that implies firearms and artillery.
Re:Tricks of Trench Warfare (2020) by WalterBright on Monday June 14, 2021 @01:53PM (#27505783)
The Civil War saw trench warfare.
Re:Tricks of Trench Warfare (2020) by svieira on Monday June 14, 2021 @03:00PM (#27506737)
Indeed - the battle of the Crater in Petersburg is an eery foretaste of the WWI battlefield.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Crater

Re:Tricks of Trench Warfare (2020) by enkid on Monday June 14, 2021 @07:49AM (#27501475)
You have a source for that?
Re:Tricks of Trench Warfare (2020) by comicjk on Monday June 14, 2021 @08:38AM (#27501841)
It's true, though it wasn't the first use of these techniques. They beat the British this way at the battle of Gate Pā.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tauranga_campaign

Re:Tricks of Trench Warfare (2020) by jammaloo on Monday June 14, 2021 @08:46AM (#27501900)
There's a good video on this event, by [LindyBeige](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6QhW5S8Gk4). Their videos are very informative and entertaining, but very focused on Britain.
Re:Tricks of Trench Warfare (2020) by fho on Monday June 14, 2021 @08:54AM (#27501957)
... and tanks ;-)
Re:Tricks of Trench Warfare (2020) by NikolaeVarius on Monday June 14, 2021 @09:50AM (#27502500)
No they didn't.