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Re:Silicon Valley thought India was its future, now things h... by naruvimama on Monday June 14, 2021 @03:28AM (#27500197)
Funny you say that, most of them are namesake secular.

Filter out countries that have had large scale ethnic cleansing or genocide in the last 70 years.

Filter out those countries which have 99% muslims.

Filter out those which do not have some form of sharia imposed.

Even though both muslims and Hindus in India want a better future for themselves and their children.

Muslims have shown their willingness to engage in arson, destruction of public property and stopping economic activity or progress to push their own Islamic politics at every opportunity.

You must be really blind to not have observed this.

Re:Silicon Valley thought India was its future, now things h... by random314 on Monday June 14, 2021 @04:27AM (#27500486)
BJP is pushing for a Hindu ethno-fascist state. Are you citing Islamic states as a form of what-aboutism or as a template for inspiration?

Also, for your laundry list of objections that you created with zero research - here is Albania https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secularism_in_Albania#Debates_...

There are more, but I will let you do the research. Maybe you will find an example in a secular muslim majority state where the prime minister hand picks a terrorist under trial (whose phone and vehicle were used to bomb a church/temple) as a candidate for election.

Re:Silicon Valley thought India was its future, now things h... by zozbot234 on Monday June 14, 2021 @05:13AM (#27500695)
> BJP is pushing for a Hindu ethno-fascist state

The relevant word there is obviously "Hindu", but the Permit Raj system in India is more than 70 years old. Is there really a national alternative to the BJP that's less authoritarian/corporatist/fascist and more freedom oriented, in a way that would meaningfully benefit the average Indian?

Re:Silicon Valley thought India was its future, now things h... by random314 on Monday June 14, 2021 @05:33AM (#27500782)
Virtually any party would be less authoritarian and fascist. Manmohan Singh was the last prime minister. The average Indian would benefit from a better economy, employment opportunities, fearlessness from cow and other vigilantes, sedition charges for expressing political opinions. Muslims in kashmir, lakshwadeep and Sikhs would feel safer.

BJP losing would boost national pride. Right now Indians are considered a joke. I have been personally asked to go drink cow piss on various forums. Plastering cow dung all over the body and ridiculous statements about gold in cow milk will be stripped from text books. Money invested in ayush ministry and central vista will be used in health spending.

https://www.reddit.com/r/shitbjpsays/

Re:Silicon Valley thought India was its future, now things h... by zozbot234 on Monday June 14, 2021 @05:42AM (#27500822)
> fearlessness from cow and other vigilantes ... Muslims in kashmir, lakshwadeep and Sikhs would feel safer.

This is perhaps your most compelling point. It's also cherrypicked however since radicalism and violence are coming from both the Hindu and Muslim sides. Picking one side over the other is just not what good government is about, this goes for Hindus obviously but also Muslims.

Re:Silicon Valley thought India was its future, now things h... by naruvimama on Monday June 14, 2021 @05:29AM (#27500768)
Every muslim majority state is a facist state.

India's diversity is safe as long as it is a Hindu state. I would like India to become a Hindu Rashta.

With the creation of Pakistan, it is only fair for India to become a Hindu state.

The history of Islam & Christianity clearly show the genocide that they have carried out across the world. We would like to preserve what we are.

You are just being an Islamic apologist.

Re:Silicon Valley thought India was its future, now things h... by random314 on Monday June 14, 2021 @05:39AM (#27500815)
I like your confidence.

Are you citing Islamic states as a form of what-aboutism or as a template for inspiration?

Re:Silicon Valley thought India was its future, now things h... by naruvimama on Monday June 14, 2021 @06:13AM (#27500970)
If India is not declared a Hindu state, there is a good chance that it becomes an Islamic state.

Like Pakistan, one denomination will start killing another, it will become a hellhole, like much of west Asia.

Re:Silicon Valley thought India was its future, now things h... by legolas2412 on Monday June 14, 2021 @10:24AM (#27502885)
India has been a secular state for 70 years, and it is not becoming Islamic. We can stay secular or become a Hindu theocratic state. Becoming an Islamic theocratic state is not at all a possibility.

If you really think there's a chance, i am willing to bet on it. Free money for me.

Re:Silicon Valley thought India was its future, now things h... by naruvimama on Monday June 14, 2021 @01:20PM (#27505293)
That must be exactly what the people of Sindh and Kashmir must have thought when they first gave refugee to Muslims.

Did not turn out very well for them.

Re:Silicon Valley thought India was its future, now things h... by some_joe on Monday June 14, 2021 @06:38AM (#27501092)
The root issue is that there are entities that profit (mostly in retaining their relevance/power) when two group of people are pitched against one another. Because such entities can proclaim themselves to be the protectors of the group that is the majority from the other group that could be a minority group.

So you have to understand that once all Muslims are driven out, such entities will pitch two classes within Hindus itself. And in all probability, this could be what happening in places with Muslim majority.

So the real solution is not to drive a group of people away, or declare a "Hindu Rashtra" but to recognise such entities that are profiting from these conflicts, and render that tactic toothless. You will magically see the killings stop.

Re:Silicon Valley thought India was its future, now things h... by naruvimama on Monday June 14, 2021 @08:35AM (#27501821)
We do not have conflicts with other groups.

I am not so convinced that there is no fault with Islam considering history as well as the neighborhood.

It takes a lot of self loath and stupidity to buy into this argument mostly made by young or ignorant leftists.

Re:Silicon Valley thought India was its future, now things h... by zozbot234 on Monday June 14, 2021 @08:52AM (#27501938)
> We do not have conflicts with other groups.

Well, there's that whole bovine liberation moo'vement, that has sometimes turned violent.

Re:Silicon Valley thought India was its future, now things h... by naruvimama on Monday June 14, 2021 @01:21PM (#27505309)
In India where a cow is not safe a Hindu is not safe.

Wonder how that came about.