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Re:Isfreenodedeadyet – Tracking Freenode to Libera.Chat Migr... by obedm on Sunday June 13, 2021 @04:45PM (#27496284)
Truly magnificent isn't it?

It's also a testament to the beauty of IRC. "we don't like the change. So here's a viable alternative".

We could say something similar happened with WhatsApp, but the difficulty of moving everyone to another platform is so much harder.

Re:Isfreenodedeadyet – Tracking Freenode to Libera.Chat Migr... by jonas21 on Sunday June 13, 2021 @05:48PM (#27496858)
People did leave WhatsApp. If you believe Telegram's numbers, at least 25M WhatsApp users migrated after the privacy policy change. That's more than 1000x as many people as have left freenode. But still a drop in the bucket for WhatsApp's user base.

It's more of a testament to how niche IRC is that a 20K user migration is significant.

Re:Isfreenodedeadyet – Tracking Freenode to Libera.Chat Migr... by donkeyd on Monday June 14, 2021 @12:48AM (#27499393)
> If you believe Telegram's numbers

I have a hard time believing anything from Telegram because of the owner. But that number does seem feasible.

> People did leave WhatsApp

I don't think people joining Telegram directly leads to people actually leaving WhatsApp. I joined Signal, but am still in WhatsApp because most people are still on there.

Re:Isfreenodedeadyet – Tracking Freenode to Libera.Chat Migr... by pmontra on Sunday June 13, 2021 @05:02PM (#27496442)
As a friend of mine wrote in a WhatsApp group that we are trying to migrate to Telegram, "which data about me can they [WA] steal that I care about." So she's not installing Telegram.
Re:Isfreenodedeadyet – Tracking Freenode to Libera.Chat Migr... by echelon on Sunday June 13, 2021 @04:53PM (#27496342)
The difference is that

* IRC users have the technical acumen to move.

* IRC users aren't strangers to setting things up and configuring them, so the switching cost isn't as big

* There's a shared ethos about IRC, but not so much for an app that reaches everybody on the planet. You can convince one demographic much easier than all of them.

Re:Isfreenodedeadyet – Tracking Freenode to Libera.Chat Migr... by luke2m on Sunday June 13, 2021 @05:12PM (#27496536)
The difference is that

* IRC is interoperable and easy to change servers, unlike apps with proprietary protocols. If Yahoo started doing horrible things with their email, then people who notice would switch to GMail or another host.

Re:Isfreenodedeadyet – Tracking Freenode to Libera.Chat Migr... by codetrotter on Sunday June 13, 2021 @05:33PM (#27496716)
On a related note I wonder if many people ended up migrating to Discord instead of to another IRC network.

For example the SerenityOS project used to advertise on their site that they had a channel on freenode but now they link a Discord instead.

http://serenityos.org/

Re:Isfreenodedeadyet – Tracking Freenode to Libera.Chat Migr... by luke2m on Sunday June 13, 2021 @06:00PM (#27496942)
That’s a good point. Honestly, if I had a popular open source project right now, I would have matrix bridged to discord and maybe irc if people asked for it.
Re:Isfreenodedeadyet – Tracking Freenode to Libera.Chat Migr... by geofft on Sunday June 13, 2021 @05:01PM (#27496430)
Not just "technical acumen" - the clients are designed to connect to multiple networks and treat them equally. Literally nothing about my user experience is different now that I'm no longer logged into Freenode.

Non-technical users have the same sort of experience e.g. switching cell phone providers (provided your area has number portability), switching between subreddits, etc., and those moves definitely happen.

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Re:Isfreenodedeadyet – Tracking Freenode to Libera.Chat Migr... by wizzwizz4 on Sunday June 13, 2021 @06:11PM (#27497025)
Downvotes on HN are unpredictable at the best of times. This, however? Sure-fire way to get them.
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Re:Isfreenodedeadyet – Tracking Freenode to Libera.Chat Migr... by dang on Monday June 14, 2021 @03:35PM (#27507188)
Please don't do this here.