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Re:Animal testing is exploitative and largely ineffective by eigenket on Sunday June 13, 2021 @02:44PM (#27495125)
The two situations aren't really comparable without more information. Clearly the people in A are still eating a craptonne of plants, and also have access to much more land per person than B, since they can afford to have a lot dedicated to very unproductive pasture.
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Re:Animal testing is exploitative and largely ineffective by ummonk on Sunday June 13, 2021 @03:09PM (#27495326)
Yeah, it's hard to compare and the greater yields of crops certainly bodes well for A.

Though the productivity differences aren't as large as one would think - protein conversion ratios for smaller animals tend to be 2-3. It's worse for beef (~10) but you have to consider that half the cows are creating milk which has a high protein conversion ratio. And it's potentially even better for animals when you consider the quality of protein - e.g. see https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/jsfa.8362

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Re:Animal testing is exploitative and largely ineffective by thaumasiotes on Sunday June 13, 2021 @03:14PM (#27495382)
> It's worse for beef (~10) but you have to consider that half the cows are creating milk which has a high protein conversion ratio.

Half?

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Re:Animal testing is exploitative and largely ineffective by skak on Sunday June 13, 2021 @04:31PM (#27496136)
Only female cows produce milk.
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Re:Animal testing is exploitative and largely ineffective by thaumasiotes on Sunday June 13, 2021 @11:55PM (#27499148)
Where do you get "half" from that? Female cows are economically productive and males are not. The ratio is not even close to half-and-half. Go look at a herd of cows sometime.
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Re:Animal testing is exploitative and largely ineffective by aflag on Sunday June 13, 2021 @05:38PM (#27496767)
All cows are female.
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Re:Animal testing is exploitative and largely ineffective by ummonk on Sunday June 13, 2021 @07:38PM (#27497664)
In common parlance (rather than technical terminology), "cows" means "cattle".
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Re:Animal testing is exploitative and largely ineffective by thaumasiotes on Sunday June 13, 2021 @11:54PM (#27499144)
Almost all cattle are female. aflag doesn't get less accurate if you interpret "cows" as the species term that it is.
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Re:Animal testing is exploitative and largely ineffective by xkcd-sucks on Sunday June 13, 2021 @04:04PM (#27495862)
Pastoral societies usually inhabit ecosystems that don't support human-edible crops
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