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Re:As religious faith has declined, ideological intensity ha... by whatshisface on Saturday June 12, 2021 @07:27PM (#27488331)
That's like, the difference between one ship full of Pilgrims and every subsequent ship, or between one wagon train and every subsequent wagon train, or between the people on the Mayflower and their kids (who showed up in a society that already existed).
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Re:As religious faith has declined, ideological intensity ha... by themolecularman on Saturday June 12, 2021 @07:47PM (#27488431)
The people who draw the distinction generally don't like the pilgrims settlers because of what they did when they got here. In contrast to immigrants, who did not "settle" anyone or any land. You can see a lot of this in today's politics as well.
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Re:As religious faith has declined, ideological intensity ha... by 8note on Saturday June 12, 2021 @09:27PM (#27488988)
The land is still being settled today; eg. Trump allowing previously unsettled land to be destroyed for oil and gas extraction
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Re:As religious faith has declined, ideological intensity ha... by jeofken on Saturday June 12, 2021 @07:34PM (#27488368)
You are correct in that this difference between settler and immigrant is a gradient, but outside of programming few things are simply yes/no
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Re:As religious faith has declined, ideological intensity ha... by whatshisface on Saturday June 12, 2021 @07:36PM (#27488382)
It's more than a gradient, it's like counting up ones to make 1,000,000. Which one is showing up to a small number and making it big, and which ones are showing up to a big number and hanging around?
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