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Re:It’s time to break up the Ivy League cartel by nradov on Friday June 11, 2021 @07:42PM (#27479863)
So then the smart choice for any applicant would be to select whichever race checkbox on the form gives the greatest advantage. Since race is an artificial social construct with no clear objective definition there's nothing wrong with hacking the system to your advantage. Or just leave it blank.
Re:It’s time to break up the Ivy League cartel by BurningFrog on Friday June 11, 2021 @07:56PM (#27479957)
In a rules based system, maybe.

In a "holistic" system, where they pick whoever they want to pick, pissing the selectors off will not work.

Re:It’s time to break up the Ivy League cartel by barry-cotter on Friday June 11, 2021 @07:51PM (#27479924)
They’ll just look at your family name and make an educated guess based on school demographics and your hobbies, or look you out or parents up on social media. They’re not stupid. They know who they’re discriminating against
Re:It’s time to break up the Ivy League cartel by fighterpilot on Friday June 11, 2021 @10:00PM (#27480715)
But they don't really care about what the applicant's race is.

What they care about is how that person contributes to the metrics they're trying to maximize, or in the case of Asians, minimize.

To them, a 1/4 Black person 3/4 Asian person, and a full Black person, are exactly the same thing, as long as they're both incrementing the same number in their diversity report.

Re:It’s time to break up the Ivy League cartel by b9a2cab5 on Friday June 11, 2021 @10:11PM (#27480792)
Ah but they do. See this person that was Indian (but raised in Nigeria!) but pretended to be black to get into med school [1].

"I was always in a state of terror that I would be found out. During one interview at Case Western Reserve University, I was confronted by a black doctor and admissions committee member. He barraged me with questions about my family and personal background. I said that my family came from Nigeria. It was technically correct because my Indian parents had lived in Nigeria before moving to the United States.

Finally he said, eyes cold, in more of a question than a statement, “I read your application. It says you’re black.” I nodded."

[1]: https://nypost.com/2015/04/12/mindy-kalings-brother-explains...

Re:It’s time to break up the Ivy League cartel by fighterpilot on Friday June 11, 2021 @10:33PM (#27480919)
I should have added the caveat that the person needs a sufficient proportion of actual ancestry so as to make it not an outright lie.
Re:It’s time to break up the Ivy League cartel by nradov on Friday June 11, 2021 @10:53PM (#27481051)
How does one determine a sufficient proportion of actual ancestry? What is the specific dividing line between truth and outright lie?
Re:It’s time to break up the Ivy League cartel by jelsisi on Saturday June 12, 2021 @01:43PM (#27486112)
What if you are adopted? There is no way an admissions officer has the time to internet stalk each applicant.